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Post by elkchsr on Aug 30, 2004 3:58:46 GMT 12.75
I know one for sure that wouldn't make it to far...
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Post by Paws on Aug 30, 2004 4:22:35 GMT 12.75
LOL! I figure he might feel lost and naked without his "Gunner!" ;D Although I must admit there were a few others there that kind of surprised me that they "appeared" to be my friends and two in particular who flat out lied on me. Anywho, live and learn. This too shall pass. Oh not to swerve the thread but it appears the FBI rooted out the the two culprits on that board who were sending virus e-mails to my box. I had pretty much pinned them down before I filed my complaints and although they never confirmed my suspicions the crap has stopped. By the way, FCC kindly replied that the Internet is not within their jurisdiction. Might make a memo for record about that. I digress! Eat more bugs!! ;D
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Post by karlgustav on Sept 11, 2004 13:28:08 GMT 12.75
I picked up a new survival-hunting knife this past week that caught my eye ! It's a Schrade XBT-1.Very large, in a nice ballistic nylon sheath,which is a pleasant change 4 Schrade! If not satisfactory 4 survival,it's good as a camp knife. It does lack a serrated edge 4 rope cutting, but I have that on my Wave & the XBT-1 is heavy enuogh 4 chopping. I will be testing it & will pass on the results.
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Post by Christopher on Sept 11, 2004 17:52:54 GMT 12.75
Stainless, or carbon steel?
And really, how much rope are you gonna be cutting in a true survival situation?
If you ask the American Bladesmith Society, a knife with sufficient mass and proper edge geometry will cut a free-hanging hemp rope rather well, with no serrations.
Test the heck out of it, and let us know how well it works for you!
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Post by elkchsr on Sept 22, 2004 13:07:15 GMT 12.75
I've been working all day on making the fare that I will be taking with me on my next journey. It consists of a little gravy mix, ground elk jerkey, cooked ground Potato's, tomatoes, cabage, carrots and shallots. It smells good as it dries. I will be cutting it into strips and using it as a soup base as I travel. It takes very little room and is extremely nutrisous (sp). I will be supplementing it with things I pick up along the way so that I only need to take a couple day's worth if that is all I ate. It should last me about a week plus... (Crossed fingers)
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Post by MadJack on Oct 19, 2004 16:39:19 GMT 12.75
Well, I've updated a small survival kit that was organized by a man named Ken Cole. If you had Survival Training in USAF, you'll know that name. I've had this since my days in the Boy Scouts and I refresh it every couple of years. Everything is packed into a 2"X 2" square X 3/4" deep container. This was clear hard plastic and now soft clear plastic. It contains: 1 small piece of paper 2"X 2" with your name and contact emergancy phone number & any info that fits on it. (you could also use a fine permanent marking pen and write info on the inside of the container. 6 wooden kitchen matches waxed over to waterproof 3- 1" safety pins 2- 1.5" sterile gauze pads 4- 3/4" band-aids 2- single edge safety razor blades 1- small compass; a bubblegum machine variety 3- #10 or #12 barbed fish hooks 4- small lead split shots A 1.75" piece of 1/8" wooden dowel onto which is wound: 1.5 feet of 1/4" Medical adhesive tape flush on one end, then 10' of light gauge copper wire, over which is wrapped enough 2 or 4 pound test monofiliment fishing line to fill the roll even: And last but not least there was a Dime, then a Quarter for a phone call or whatever amount was needed. Now you can get the operator without the coinage which saves a small space. After everything is packed inside, then tape around seam to seal it water tight. The razor blades are used for medical emergancy as well as doubling as a signal sun reflector. The oval hole in it helps sight the aircraft or other target. This little packet will compliment anything else you might have on a hunt, hike or camping trip.
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Post by Christopher on Oct 27, 2004 6:06:53 GMT 12.75
What's the copper wire for? Snares?
Though it would risk breaking, a wooden container could be shaved for tinder... something I'd think about.
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Post by MadJack on Oct 31, 2004 16:52:22 GMT 12.75
Right on the copper wire. It's for small snares. If you had a small box and you shaved it, that would waste a drinking container as well as the contents carrier. If you were without a knife, you could use 1 razor blade to shave tinder or make tinder sticks. I think this topic can be one of the best things for outdoorsmen. But I have to say this; practice these tips to become proficient in the techniques. Example: I was watching "Survivor" on TV a couple years ago. It was the first few days, and some of the contestants were trying to make fire. Several had suggestions on 'HOW TO' and also commented they'ed read it or saw it on a video. And it only took 3 shows until they'd won matches in a challange. knowing what somethings for and how to use it does not give the experiance for completing the task.
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Post by Paws on Nov 1, 2004 4:55:46 GMT 12.75
Mad Jack, I think a small shaved box might be too distracting for a survival exercise and contradict the concept of survival in the bush. (I;m sorry, I'm not well!) ;D
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Post by Buckeye on Nov 2, 2004 7:25:34 GMT 12.75
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Post by Christopher on Nov 3, 2004 7:00:51 GMT 12.75
Nah, he's been leanin' on the sippin whiskey...
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Post by Christopher on Nov 3, 2004 7:03:31 GMT 12.75
Here was my thought - make a wooden container (Western red cedar, or maybe oak, birch would be softer to carve...) that has 1/4 inch thick walls, and a good inch overlap. Plenty of material to shave from the outside without comprimising the container. Or just make it a bit thicker in one place for "shaving stock". Plus, a handmade wooden container lends itself to all sorts of beautification: pyrography, staining, chip carving, inlay, etc. These can become intensely personal, much like the medicine bag of our natives. Our "Medicine" is what keeps us going when the going gets rough.
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Post by elkchsr on Dec 13, 2004 3:29:46 GMT 12.75
I know this is a very late post to the copper wire put into your survival kit. I would like you to know it is pretty hard to get a piece of copper stout enough to hold when a good healthy animal gets into it. It works if you don't have any thing else. The best stuff I have found that is small, very strong, cheap to use and easy to form is the green coated wire that you will find in the flower section of any hobby type section of that store. I know Joans and Walmart both carry this wire. You will even get so much that you will only use a smaller portion of what you buy. I would try to have at the very minimum -10' but prefer more like 25' for use in quick ties that may be needed or other things. You could probably have this stuff double as fishing line also so that you can use the space for some thing else the fishing line may be taking up depending on the size of your survival container.
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Post by rwblue01 on Jun 10, 2005 7:13:59 GMT 12.75
May I suggest getting a standard #2 pencil and wrapping it in duct tape?
The pencil is great for leaving notes and what not. (My car broke down. I am cold and hungry. I am heading down the creek bed. I hope to be home before you find the car. If not come find me.)
The tape is useful in for patching all kinds of things. Or marking your trail. If you are real desperate and your tape is sticky enough it can catch rodents and small birds. It can also be used as a second skin (like when I had a large blister on the bottom of my foot). A military friend said he used it as a temporary fix, to patch a guy up that had his guts hanging out.
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Post by Paws on Jun 10, 2005 10:15:19 GMT 12.75
Great idea RW!
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kj
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Post by kj on Aug 25, 2008 1:36:43 GMT 12.75
Nice thread! I was very pleased when my employers used this sort of thing as a team building exercise. We were given a plane crash scenario and a list of things we could grab when heading into the surrounding mountains. It was pretty funny to see what some of the nurses chose to grab and it made for great discussion. The Red Cross wilderness first aid course that I can teach is weak on medical techniques (other than the basic first aid/delayed help stuff) but extremely strong in terms of team work, planning and response related to transporting someone out and/or going to get help. Good stuff for learning how to work together efficiently whether your in the backwoods or not. I like to travel light as well with multi-purpose stuff along, like a bandanna, the condoms, etc. Although, one luxury that I like to pack is a bulky sterile absorbant pad/dressing as a first layer on a nasty bleeding wound. I also like to have some anti-histamines and some other basic medical stuff. When folks come out here to hike I encourage them to come prepared, use it as an excuse to get their go-kits, pocket kits together; but most think it's too much of a bother. At the minimum, I want them to have a whistle with them so I can find them if they don't come back. A friend also showed me how to use an acorn to make one heck of a loud whistle; but most of these folks don't want to bother with learning that either. I like the guest who recommended a good whistle instead of the cheap ones that are going in such kits these days. (BTW, sure seems like putting together 'good' kits would be a good job for stay-at-home parents. Many of the survival kits out there are filled with crap.) Another thing I really like folks to have is a list of their medical conditions, allergies, contact numbers. I also prefer to be informed of any medical conditions folks may have that might influence my response decisions. (Diabetic? insulin, glucagon tabs?) I had a woman come out here one time who was standing around our smoking campfire talking about her very severe asthma attacks. So, I asked her where her supplies were located in case I needed to get them for her. Guess what...she didn't even have her inhaler or meds with her. A guest wrote the following on the thread: The real key to survival is to know where the fluck you are going, where you are, and how you get back to your starting point. Never put yourself in a position that would require you to have to "survive'!Good one, even gets to what I'm talking about with regards to transitioning back to an oil-free civilization in a time of great climate change and social/economic upheaval. Paws, perhaps you can show us your pocket survival kits sometime. Constantine was wondering if he should get ribbed condoms or not. Geez...what am I going to do with that boy? Some folks have to be alerted to the fact that unlubricated condoms are easier to work with...if you're talking about survival supplies that is. kj
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Post by Paws on Aug 26, 2008 0:44:53 GMT 12.75
Ribbed for sling shots, plain for carrying water/general all purpose use, glow in the dark for trail marking/entertainment.
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