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Post by Toby Benoit on Oct 13, 2008 11:03:35 GMT 12.75
Beautiful background for that duck busting there Ottie! Congrats!
Congrats to Lamirand's SIL on the fresh deer sausage and Carter's boy too; a six pointer...Sahweeeeeet!
My little girly-hunting buddy Tonya called me from her treestandt his morning with ANOTHER hog on the ground! She's really filling the freezer!
Best of all, she popped her sow using an Heirloom Hog Squealer! She got on the downwind edge of a palmetto thicket and went to squealing like a pig in trouble and this little mama sow came running out looking for a fight. What she found was the business end of a .45 Knight ML waiting on her, lol. ;D
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Post by Carter Northcutt on Oct 13, 2008 12:07:37 GMT 12.75
Cool, I always heard that the wild pig tastes better than domestic.
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Post by othmar on Oct 13, 2008 13:44:23 GMT 12.75
Thanks guys. The lake with the duck marsh and the hills in the background is not ten minutes from our house. The hills in the background are prime mule deer, elk and bear country. I feel so spoiled, with ten to thirty minutes’ drive I can have some of the best hunting and fishing all around me.
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Post by Paws on Oct 13, 2008 14:15:34 GMT 12.75
I'll have that picture up here in a minute. Now did you want me to post the dear or the deer?
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Post by Carter Northcutt on Oct 13, 2008 14:21:53 GMT 12.75
The deer and the one with just Natasha and me
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Post by Paws on Oct 13, 2008 14:39:51 GMT 12.75
You'll have to settle for this one. Nice Buck there buddy. Good job!
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Post by Carter Northcutt on Oct 13, 2008 23:09:06 GMT 12.75
Thanks Phil.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Oct 17, 2008 14:38:45 GMT 12.75
Doggone fine buck there! I'd definitely be on my way to the taxidermist's place with that one!
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Post by Carter Northcutt on Oct 18, 2008 3:18:48 GMT 12.75
Well Toby, due to the downturn in my personal economy we decided to do a skull mount.
We are going out this weekend for the muzzleloader hunt. I am hoping that my youngest son will get a deer. That will be really cool if he does. I can always get one later if I do not get one this weekend. I will send photos to Phil to post if we get any deer.
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Post by Carter Northcutt on Oct 21, 2008 3:04:26 GMT 12.75
Looks like the deer came out ahead this past weekend. My son saw three deer yesterday but was not able to get a shot. Hopefully when modern gun kicks in next month he will get his deer.
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Post by Mars on Oct 24, 2008 1:48:32 GMT 12.75
Daughter and I went out saturday morning. We sat in the treestand until 10 am and saw nothing but squirrels. Walking the road out we jumped a small buck and 2 does. I shot the crossbow at the small buck and missed. The daughter, thinking I missed because of lack of skill, started her teasing but I corrected her that I missed on purpose practicing catch and release since the buck wasn't big enough and would grow a bigger rack by the time we came back during gun season. Of course she gave the niave remark that his antlers where hardened but I corrected her that he was still in velvet. I explained that the sun can hit the antlers just right and make it look like they are not in velvet but an experienced deer hunter like myself knows better. To which she replied that he was rubbing a sapling. I know you other experienced deer hunters are probaly laughing at my greenhorn daughter but please don't. She's still learning. I explained to her that was an old deer trick to make a hunter think his puny antlers won't be growing anymore antler and wasn't big enough to waste time on and that she needed to learn the deers tricks if she was going to get serious about deer hunting like I am. She still didn't get it because she asked why I shot at it if I wanted to miss.TSK,TSK. I explained I shot at it to make it think it's trick had worked and it will now believe that I shot simply because the opportunity presented itself and that I now think he is too small to be worth the effort to hunt again and he would stay in the same area thinking he was safe. I know his tricks and come rifle season he will be fully grown and we will be back after him and he will be completely off-guard thinking his trick worked. I'll be glad when she learns this stuff so I don't have to explain it anymore! ;D
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Post by Carter Northcutt on Oct 24, 2008 2:59:20 GMT 12.75
Mars, I feed the same line of crap to my boys too. ;D After several years of it they are finally on to me
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Post by kj on Oct 24, 2008 4:03:53 GMT 12.75
Daughter and I went out saturday morning. We sat in the treestand until 10 am and saw nothing but squirrels. Walking the road out we jumped a small buck and 2 does. I shot the crossbow at the small buck and missed. The daughter, thinking I missed because of lack of skill, started her teasing but I corrected her that I missed on purpose practicing catch and release since the buck wasn't big enough and would grow a bigger rack by the time we came back during gun season. Of course she gave the niave remark that his antlers where hardened but I corrected her that he was still in velvet. I explained that the sun can hit the antlers just right and make it look like they are not in velvet but an experienced deer hunter like myself knows better. To which she replied that he was rubbing a sapling. I know you other experienced deer hunters are probaly laughing at my greenhorn daughter but please don't. She's still learning. I explained to her that was an old deer trick to make a hunter think his puny antlers won't be growing anymore antler and wasn't big enough to waste time on and that she needed to learn the deers tricks if she was going to get serious about deer hunting like I am. She still didn't get it because she asked why I shot at it if I wanted to miss.TSK,TSK. I explained I shot at it to make it think it's trick had worked and it will now believe that I shot simply because the opportunity presented itself and that I now think he is too small to be worth the effort to hunt again and he would stay in the same area thinking he was safe. I know his tricks and come rifle season he will be fully grown and we will be back after him and he will be completely off-guard thinking his trick worked. I'll be glad when she learns this stuff so I don't have to explain it anymore! ;D Hi folks! Thanks for sharing the explanation Mars! Your dtr is lucky having such a mentor, you're lucky to have a dtr who is willing to go out with you and it sounds like she's an attentive learner...gotta keep asking questions! How old is she? The great mysteries have brought some local hunters into my life. I've been been having some great conversations with them, been going out scouting with them and have my hay bales up for target shooting. One of the guys thinks I've got a stellar location for a 3d target range and says there is a big market for such a place in this area. Sounds like a great business venture to work on over winter and roll out prior to hunting season next year. Any tips, etc., will be greatly appreciated...as usual!!! I'll revisit the web sites that were shared earlier for 3d targets. Any sites to download score cards, other info? Warm wishes to everyone! Kathy (kj)
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Post by Mars on Oct 24, 2008 5:30:57 GMT 12.75
I don't fool her for long Carter. I mainly try to get a decent delay before she smacks me. ;D This time I actualy made it back to the truck before she caught on or she caught on earlier but waited to get ahold of the pop bottle from the truck that she threw at me. kj, she's 13 and my constant shadow. I figure it won't be long before she decides to not be my shadow so I take advantage of it while I can. Sorry but I cannot help with the 3d target set-up. I've never done it or watched so I'm ignorant beyond knowing what it is.
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Post by Carter Northcutt on Oct 24, 2008 11:38:06 GMT 12.75
KJ, go to www.ibo.net You should be able to find all the info there that you need. I used to shoot IBO (International Bowhunting Organization) shoots here in town. I belonged to the local club here and we would host shoots on weekends. The biggest expense was the cost of the targets for the club. For me it was arrows; mine seemed to be tree magnets ;D Actually, I did do pretty good sometimes and even won one event. If you get a club going and start having shoots you will see how much fun it is. I liken it to being in a hunting camp. The camaraderie and everything provided a nice experience. We also cooked and sold food and beverages.
I know what you mean Mars. Mine caught on to me pretty soon too. Did you ever do the raisinette trick on her?
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Post by Toby Benoit on Oct 24, 2008 13:55:37 GMT 12.75
Glad you got to give that youngin such a valuable lesson on being a veteran deer hunter, Mars! ;D ;D ;D KJ, 3-D ranges are a great way to have a ton of fun, but don't do it on your own or you'll lose your britches. I know too many that have. The way to make it profitable is to get a local club to form and let the club buy the targets, insurance, etc and do all the work and maintennce on the course. Of course, you'll be needed on hand at all times, but rent or lease the property to the club and you'll not only get the benefits of being amongst dozens of expert archers, but you'll make a few bucks on the side. Nobody I know that did the range on a private scale stayed open for too long because of the expense, but if the expenses are spread out over a dozen or more members of the club...gitterdone!
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Post by kj on Oct 25, 2008 2:55:35 GMT 12.75
Hi Guys! Thanks for the tips on the 3d target idea. I'll check out the IBO site again.
I mentioned the notion to Paws the other day. Sounds like we need to look into the formation of a club. Going in that direction would also help me develop friendships/relationships with neighbor folks...probably wouldn't have to worry about going hungry either:)
Actually some out-of-area land owners just stopped in for a visit. They're down from a city up north to do some scouting. They also bought some ginseng seed from me so they're heading out to do some planting this morning.
Hey...what do you call a deer that is multi-colored, white lower body with chocolate brown spine strip and spots? One guy calls them "albino" but I always thought albino referred to a total lack of pigment...all white, blue eyes. Is there a more appropriate name?
Yes, we've got some rather unique deer up here. Of course, the immediate response from some of the guys is to shoot them so they can mount/stuff them. But, what about the genetics, the breeding? If we kill them, that's it. Should we consider letting them be? Any thoughts? kj
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Post by Paws on Oct 25, 2008 6:44:45 GMT 12.75
Hi Guys! Thanks for the tips on the 3d target idea. I'll check out the IBO site again. I mentioned the notion to Paws the other day. Sounds like we need to look into the formation of a club. Going in that direction would also help me develop friendships/relationships with neighbor folks...probably wouldn't have to worry about going hungry either:) Actually some out-of-area land owners just stopped in for a visit. They're down from a city up north to do some scouting. They also bought some ginseng seed from me so they're heading out to do some planting this morning. Hey...what do you call a deer that is multi-colored, white lower body with chocolate brown spine strip and spots? One guy calls them "albino" but I always thought albino referred to a total lack of pigment...all white, blue eyes. Is there a more appropriate name? Yes, we've got some rather unique deer up here. Of course, the immediate response from some of the guys is to shoot them so they can mount/stuff them. But, what about the genetics, the breeding? If we kill them, that's it. Should we consider letting them be? Any thoughts? kj The spotted unantlered deer under a year is a fawn and and an adult deer with a pinto or paint configuration is a "Piebald". Albinos are pure white with transparant eyes which appear to be pink. If you see a white deer with blue eyes probably ought to shoot it, stuff it, and mount it! (No wait that's what you do to future ex-wives!)
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Post by Mars on Oct 25, 2008 9:48:23 GMT 12.75
If it's a North American deer then it is a fawn. Deer can and do breed all year long and it's not uncommon to see fawns in November. There are non-north american deer running around. Those with spots when adult are called Axis deer. Those in the wild are escapes from farms or deliberate "escapes".
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Post by kj on Oct 26, 2008 0:40:44 GMT 12.75
Hi guys! Thanks for the input. It sounds to me that the deer these guys are describing are piebalds. (I doubt there are any axis deer around here but I suppose it is possible. I hear there's also a tame black bear roaming the woods now, got out of its cage during the recent electrical outage.) Piebalds apparently have genetic defects that aren't good for the herd. I will pass that on to my hunting buddies and let them know I won't have a problem if they take them. Albinos on the other hand, don't adversely affect the genetic health of the herd so would not need to be culled. Also, a true albino deer would have pink/red eyes; if it has blue eyes it is producing some melanin and is therefore not a true albino. The following is one of the sites I found with such info but it wasn't the only one. kj www.taxidermy.net/forums/IndustryArticles/05/f/05CC9CACCD.htmlAlbinism comes from a recessive gene that alters the pigmentation of the animal (as does melanism). Their reproductive systems are no threat to anything as they likely will bear "normal" offspring. Piebalds, however, are a whole 'nuther ballgame. Their genetic material is altered by physical anamolies. Piebalds can and do breed and each successive generation "piles on". I've seen them with humps on their backs, parrot beaked mouths, and deformed skeletal structures (I got one from the state a few years back that had rear legs like a rabbit and the front legs knee joints were reversed. I don't know how it ever moved to begin with.) Piebalds SHOULD be taken out of a herd, but true albinos form no threat at all to the herd.
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