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Post by Paws on Apr 22, 2011 1:47:30 GMT 12.75
I have no authoritative opinion here. I never had to buy caps. Got a bunch with my pistols and my cousin Jimmy and Bruce gave me a shit load of them. I don't shoot them often as it only takes two minutes to get them dirty and three hours to clean them!
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Post by Toby Benoit on Apr 22, 2011 16:53:40 GMT 12.75
"I don't shoot them often as it only takes two minutes to get them dirty and three hours to clean them!"
Ain't that the dang truth??? I fouled up a Navy .44 that used to belong to my grandaddy a couple years ago and let it sit a couple days before I decided to clean it...big mistake; the cylinder was froze shut!!!
Todd, "Shiloh" actually walked me through the cleanup to get it unstuck...had to boil it in soapy water, lol.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Apr 22, 2011 16:57:46 GMT 12.75
er right Snake, I never saw a need to switch to the musket cap on any of my hunting rifles. Kept clean and with a pinch of powder placed in the pan underneath the nipple when loading, I always had a positive discharge in my old sidelocks. In fact, I didn't see that much difference in discharge using my new inline over the old sidelocks and all I ever used was CC#11 caps.
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Post by Snake Eyes on Apr 23, 2011 4:33:38 GMT 12.75
I don't shoot them often as it only takes two minutes to get them dirty and three hours to clean them! Phil, Trust me,if that were true there is no way I could be involved. I don't mind cleaning B/P guns as long as I am the one that shot them.But, if it takes you 3 hours to clean a B/P rifle and or pistol, or both.You are doing something wrong. Swab between rounds with some type of oil just to keep the B/P residue soft,down to the last shot of the day.When you get the gun home ,don't wait days to clean it.Next day for sure. Many will swear by the hot soapy clean,and I can't argue with it,sense I have never used it.Personally I use Hoppe's #9 plus for cleaning my B/P guns.Then Hoppe's #9 lube oil to wipe all down including the barrel. This process takes no longer that cleaning your shotgun or C/F rifle.IMO I am not an expert,but I do know what works for me. Discussion welcomed! John
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Post by Paws on Apr 23, 2011 5:50:59 GMT 12.75
I don't shoot them often as it only takes two minutes to get them dirty and three hours to clean them! Phil, Trust me,if that were true there is no way I could be involved. I don't mind cleaning B/P guns as long as I am the one that shot them.But, if it takes you 3 hours to clean a B/P rifle and or pistol, or both.You are doing something wrong. Swab between rounds with some type of oil just to keep the B/P residue soft,down to the last shot of the day.When you get the gun home ,don't wait days to clean it.Next day for sure. Many will swear by the hot soapy clean,and I can't argue with it,sense I have never used it.Personally I use Hoppe's #9 plus for cleaning my B/P guns.Then Hoppe's #9 lube oil to wipe all down including the barrel. This process takes no longer that cleaning your shotgun or C/F rifle.IMO I am not an expert,but I do know what works for me. Discussion welcomed! John The old boil and soak is the standard for the past two hundred and fifty years followed by thorough drying then oil. That's how it gets done in camp and why I carry extra cylinders. To clean the pistol it gets a total breakdown then the Hoppe's solvent, brushing, wipedown, dried, wipedown again to clean cloth, then oiled. After I oil them up I put them in breadsacks then the holster for LT storage. I'm gonna check my caps and see if some of those rifle caps got slipped into them by mistake. I asked the Colonel if I could carry my .357 in my holster but he thought those Yankees might not be able to get back up!
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Post by Snake Eyes on Apr 24, 2011 2:42:52 GMT 12.75
Paws, As I stated what I do works for me. If boil and toil are your thing,do it.One thing that is a little thought provoking is you do everything like the PC police exspect,then bring out the Hoppe's. Were you still in a CW camp after 1903 when Hoppe's was established...Hmmm. If PC is important then so be it.
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Post by Paws on Apr 24, 2011 3:46:05 GMT 12.75
Paws, As I stated what I do works for me. If boil and toil are your thing,do it.One thing that is a little thought provoking is you do everything like the PC police exspect,then bring out the Hoppe's. Were you still in a CW camp after 1903 when Hoppe's was established...Hmmm. If PC is important then so be it. That's why I decided to join The Raiders. They always took full advantage of forage and found. Locals nearly always volunteered to provide anything and everything in the house. As a result there is much more latitude in what can be used, shown, or done and still remain Historically Accurate (HA). After all, the re-enactments are intended to show folk "how it was".
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Post by Toby Benoit on Apr 24, 2011 5:19:02 GMT 12.75
Period Correct is one thing at an event, but you can still use the Hoppes at home, lol.
I use a T/C cleaning solvent for my rifles and follow that up with Rigg gun lube. I remember once when I was a teen, I was using WD-40 to clean an old Hawkin. Dad about flipped!
As most teens, I didn't see no big deal, but during the week of muzzleloader season, it gathered so much dirt and gunk, especially around the nipple...never use WD-40 to clean your guns, it'll gunk 'em up, lolol.
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Post by Paws on Apr 24, 2011 5:23:14 GMT 12.75
Can you imagine using lamp oil and axle grease? Yeah I gen'ly strip and oil before storage.
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Post by Snake Eyes on Apr 24, 2011 21:01:23 GMT 12.75
Period Correct is one thing at an event, but you can still use the Hoppes at home, lol. I use a T/C cleaning solvent for my rifles and follow that up with Rigg gun lube. I remember once when I was a teen, I was using WD-40 to clean an old Hawkin. Dad about flipped! As most teens, I didn't see no big deal, but during the week of muzzleloader season, it gathered so much dirt and gunk, especially around the nipple...never use WD-40 to clean your guns, it'll gunk 'em up, lolol. Toby, I am really not into the PC stuff,Rondys and such. I guess I just like the smell of blackpowder. What you say about WD-40 is correct.I have used it to wipe down exterior metals though.I think the key is to use it sparingly.I still see guys using it as a bore cleaner though.Personally I will stick with Hoppes.There is another product called Ol'Thunder that is very good when cleaning B/P guns.If you would ever want to try it,let me know and I will send you some. John P.S. BTW,have you seen the new reality show,I think on the Discovery Channel called Hogs Gone Wild.Pair it up with the Swamp People and it would be like watching the movie Dumb & Dumber.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Apr 25, 2011 5:17:15 GMT 12.75
Lol, I watch Swamp People and enjoy it alright although that sure ain't the way we do it down here! We aren't allowed to set hooks or hunt 'em in the daytime, but it's still fun to watch at times. The Hogs Gone Wild though...God help 'em but tha's a bunch of dumbasses. Nobody I know down here will watch it. We all have hunted hundreds of hogs and those guys are so full of crap it ain't even funny. I guess they gotta ham it up and"twist" things for the camera, but seriously....that's a bunch of dumbasses!
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