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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 15, 2013 14:49:03 GMT 12.75
I gave that model 29 a good cleaning. I never did get it sighted in properly, so I grabbed a box of Hornady XTP's. They're 240 grain JHP's that get 1,250fps and 825KE at the muzzle.
Anyway, at 35yds, that Smith is putting them big .44Mags in the bullseye averaging a 3" group.
I shot everything up and have 6 left I put in the cylinder, but have to buy more ammo.
After a lot of searching, found two boxes at a gun shop in Wiersdale, Fl for $25 each @20 round boxes. I'll be there tomorrow to buy them both!
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 19, 2013 17:23:32 GMT 12.75
I want to shoot this big .44 a lot more. I know well that a man with one firearm, but intimate with its use, is far more effective than a man with a closet full of guns, but casually acquainted with them at best. But the Hornady 240gr JHP's I favor as a hunting round are $22-25 eah, per box of 20. Today, I came across MagTech reloads in 240gr SWC's offered for $130 for a 250 round brick. Both bullets fly at an estimated 1,250fps at the muzzle with 875KE, therefore they should as well have the same point of impact. I'm getting a brick, maybe two, first of the month so I can hit the target range and get to know my weapon well.
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Post by Paws on Jan 22, 2013 16:48:34 GMT 12.75
I want to shoot this big .44 a lot more. I know well that a man with one firearm, but intimate with its use, is far more effective than a man with a closet full of guns, but casually acquainted with them at best. But the Hornady 240gr JHP's I favor as a hunting round are $22-25 eah, per box of 20. Today, I came across MagTech reloads in 240gr SWC's offered for $130 for a 250 round brick. Both bullets fly at an estimated 1,250fps at the muzzle with 875KE, therefore they should as well have the same point of impact. I'm getting a brick, maybe two, first of the month so I can hit the target range and get to know my weapon well. I don't worry too much about hand gun use because I figure you always have a little more time if you stay concealed while they run up to you and get in range. Prefer the wheel gun because if you get excited it is more simple to load and clear. For shooting just point your finger and squeeze. All that double hand weaver stance crap is fine for range work but not combat. On an intrusion remember to drop the number two man first with one round then the number 1 man with a double tap. Go back to number 2 if he is moving or number three if both 1 and 2 are done. Then step forward. Retrieve number 1's weapon and use it for back up rather than reloading for what's left. Shouldn't be more than six total and the last four will be shook and confused even if well trained so drop them all front to back. When you need your rifle use it as a sniper to keep them out of range and keep changing your position after one or two shots. If you want to take it to them move directly forward never laterally. Keep an eye on your flanks and if possible a mental count of your enemy. If you must retreat go as straight to the rear as possible, get concealed and ambush them lead to rear with your rifle. Then retreat and repeat.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 23, 2013 0:40:56 GMT 12.75
"For shooting just point your finger and squeeze. All that double hand weaver stance crap is fine for range work but not combat." That's why I want to get in a lot of range time. Nobody can offhand, one handed just pick up an unfamiliar handgun and expect to shoot accurately enough in a close quarter, combat situation. It's fine to target the #2 guy with one shot and #1 with a double tap; but if you miss #2...yer f*cked! The weapon needs to become an extension of your self... That requires practice practice practice... I like the KE and knock down power of the .44mag much better than I do the .357mag. I'll be looking for a decent rifle in .44mag now so I can stockpile one type of ammo. Bill Parker has contacted me about his reloading equipment for the .44mag too. When cartridges are hard t come by; I'll need to learn to reload! If you ain't been to the local shootin' range, Phil. I recommend you get down there and expend some of that ammo you got for your sidearm. Not all action will be at a distance and that hand cannon may be what it takes to buy you another day... It's good to carry a knife too... But if you don't know how to fight with it and practice those moves with it; you are not prepared to deploy it. Just sayin'.
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Post by Paws on Jan 23, 2013 1:15:43 GMT 12.75
No sir I am not wasting my ammo. Even 22 rounds are scarce as hen's teeth. Point and squeeze is more accurate than range target shooting in a combat situation. It takes less time and the hand naturally places the barrel on target just as if you were pointing your finger. I guarantee if you go for number one man first number two is going to kill you and you are probably not going to get a shot off at all. The key is to take advantage of number one being the most surprised at your weapon and number two looking the other direction to cover number one. The natural impulse is to gasp in surprise ( you the victim) then waffle your aim from one to another resulting in your demise. One does need to be familiar with the individual weapon but wearing it out and wasting ammo does not make sense. Forty four is too slow of a round for long range Toby. You need to use something that will drop a target at at least 400 yards and can repeat it quickly several times while the target moves up lto within fifty or so yards. That is one of the reasons I prefer the SKS over the AR15, better speed and greater effective range.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 23, 2013 19:21:43 GMT 12.75
HOme base is in Fl... Can't even see 400 yards...
My direct line of fire in any direction here on the home front is less than a hundred yards unobstructed. Anything goes down here it'll be close and fast. A Ruger semi auto in .44mag will be a naturally deadly deterrent to looters as well as my 12G pump loaded with 3" BB's!!!
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 24, 2013 1:56:40 GMT 12.75
Was just thinking; for a point n shoot scenario; I bet that "Judge" by Taurus would be a helluvan asset for home defense. Six round revolver loaded with .410 buckshot!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 24, 2013 2:01:10 GMT 12.75
Also...with the availability of body armor... Shoot for the groin n hips; break that bastard down so he cannot advance and stay under cover.
#2 guy groin hips and put him on the ground, #1 guy head/neck shot. Then focus on #3 or 4 if needs be, but fall back as soon as practical. A simple flash bang grenade will end any defensive capabilities if you find yourself in a holed-up situation.
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Post by Paws on Jan 24, 2013 7:30:03 GMT 12.75
Precisely although a 357 or 44 will drop them flat out just from the concussion kill them. I figure a throat or face shot is the best. Judge and Governor are decent HD choices one is a six shot the other 5 and one is double action. Forget which is which. Handy little tool for your tackle box too.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 24, 2013 8:44:15 GMT 12.75
Old man I used to know, worked as a detective until retirement, said the best thing a man could do to prepare himself for handgun engeagements was to build the muscles in his arm by extending a gallon jug of water and holding it at arms length for as long as you can.
He said when you can hold that full gallon jug of water extendded out from your body for thirty seconds, your one handed aim with a handgun will be rock steady.
I been doing that for years; developing those muscles for a rock steady one handed aim. I am rock steady one handed and rarely miss. Of course I always have done so for hunting purposes...charging boar hog or attacking crackhead or looter...I ain't going to let myself get injured.
Always depended on my Colt Python .357, but the power of this big .44 is freakin' impressive although the handgun weighs a full two pounds more than the Colt.
Gonna do some more shooting with it tomorrow, practicing draw and fire. Not a old west quick draw deal, but the guns 10.5" barrel makes it a bit more difficult to bring to bear than the Colt's 6" barrel.
Just want to increase my confidence in my ability and weapon choices but I'mnot going to get cocky either. Just makes me feel safer watching them big holes appear in my targets center.
I do my handgun practice at 30 yards instead of 30 feet as the 'experts' instruct. If I'm comfortable with my accuracy and target acquisition time at 30 yds then 30 ft will be a cakewalk.
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Post by Paws on Jan 25, 2013 3:09:20 GMT 12.75
Good condition if you plan to do a lot of shooting. Get some trick shot techniques in "point and click" without aiming too for fast and furious action. You'll be amazed how accurate you are. Work on the carpel tunnels and phalanges, carpels and metacarpels too. Use a squeezeball or wrap a string around a stick and tie a weight to it. roll the string up and roll the string down using your finger tips. Shoulders and biceps and triceps get a wheel off a wheelbarrel and run a solid axle through it with about four inches on either side. Get on your knees grab the axle with both hands and extend the wheel out as far as you can with goal being arms full extension. Draw it back to you; repeat. After 2 weeks you can fire a 10 guage one in each hand two at the same time. Now the rub, DOD is putting women on front lines. Tell me they don't plan to use them for domestic control. With tears in my eyes and sadness in my heart without hesitation I'll kill them all.
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Post by Paws on Jan 25, 2013 6:13:16 GMT 12.75
HOme base is in Fl... Can't even see 400 yards... My direct line of fire in any direction here on the home front is less than a hundred yards unobstructed. Anything goes down here it'll be close and fast. A Ruger semi auto in .44mag will be a naturally deadly deterrent to looters as well as my 12G pump loaded with 3" BB's!!! Remove anything obstgructing your view big enough to use for cover out to 300 yards. Or set up a tower.
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Post by Paws on Jan 25, 2013 6:16:11 GMT 12.75
Was just thinking; for a point n shoot scenario; I bet that "Judge" by Taurus would be a helluvan asset for home defense. Six round revolver loaded with .410 buckshot!!! ;D ;D ;D You won't get much spread on shot at close range but alternate it with round ball or hollow point ammo for some real knock down power. This weapon is what ladies need in the purse or a 38/357 hammerless.
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Post by Paws on Jan 25, 2013 6:18:44 GMT 12.75
I want to shoot this big .44 a lot more. I know well that a man with one firearm, but intimate with its use, is far more effective than a man with a closet full of guns, but casually acquainted with them at best. But the Hornady 240gr JHP's I favor as a hunting round are $22-25 eah, per box of 20. Today, I came across MagTech reloads in 240gr SWC's offered for $130 for a 250 round brick. Both bullets fly at an estimated 1,250fps at the muzzle with 875KE, therefore they should as well have the same point of impact. I'm getting a brick, maybe two, first of the month so I can hit the target range and get to know my weapon well. You might consider taki9ng up reloading Toby. If you have the room for it you got the skill. I don't know if you can reload for a fee or trade or not. Never bothered to check but at least it ought to save you some money. Obama gets done you'll need a damned license to buy ball, cap and powder.
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Post by gsoflittledove on Jan 30, 2013 9:28:09 GMT 12.75
How about some cast iron practice grandees Drill and tap 1/4 inch pipe (tw0 needed) with one drilled to accept a 2 inch stem of cannon fuse, fill with powder (but be quick) Its a good place for reclaimed or that (o cr*%>) I don't remember? powder
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Post by Toby Benoit on Feb 5, 2013 4:22:07 GMT 12.75
Practice grenades??? WTH am I gonna hunt with a grenade??? Gonner shoot that .44 s'more this evening and work on single handed shooting. Can't always jump into a Weaver stance when a big boar hog is barreling down on you, lol.
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Post by Paws on Feb 5, 2013 5:28:35 GMT 12.75
Practice grenades??? WTH am I gonna hunt with a grenade??? Gonner shoot that .44 s'more this evening and work on single handed shooting. Can't always jump into a Weaver stance when a big boar hog is barreling down on you, lol. Javalena and Nutria!
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Post by gsoflittledove on Feb 6, 2013 4:57:13 GMT 12.75
Back in 64, getting off work at midnight. the parking lot was under lock and key. a group of young blacks was at the gate, wonting to know why no blacks, worked our shift, saying they were goinna fix us up. we asked them to leave, the law was called, they would not get out of their cars. I asked the boss if I get them to leave can we go home, He said have at it. I had a road flair, I walked up to the gate and asked them not to run "cose" I'M blow you away,,. Needless to say, when the lit road flair hit the ground there wasn't a black to be seen and the cops left rubber also Never did have nomore fun there after that
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Post by Paws on Feb 6, 2013 5:09:41 GMT 12.75
You should be ashamed of yourself taking advantage of those poor ignorant young men like that! NOT ;D
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Post by Toby Benoit on Feb 6, 2013 13:14:16 GMT 12.75
Lolol... Dumbshits probably still telling about the time Whitey accosted them with a stick of Dyno-Mite! ;D ;D ;D
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