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Post by Toby Benoit on Aug 19, 2006 15:37:27 GMT 12.75
I just got a hold of a pair of skillets ya'll might tell me something about.
These were Great-Grannies skillets, a #8 Wagner and another that's about the same diameter, but nearly four inches deep. There's no marks except for a 0 under the handle.
I ain't interested in value in dollars, since these baby's are priceless to me, however I'm interested in how to date these things. She cooked with them for as long as anybody can remember, in fact the deep pan was supposedly a wedding present to her from my Great-Great Grandaddy, for frying mullet.
Kinda neat huh? All the crappers I have, I picked up at yard sales and flea markets and never thought anything of taking them to the field, but not these. They're part of family history as much as Granny's kitchen table and Grandaddy's Samuri sword he took from a dead Japanese officer, the same one that had moments before killed his brother in the Phillipines.
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Post by Paws on Aug 20, 2006 3:54:16 GMT 12.75
Well now let me see I can tell you that one is a Wagner and the other is about four inches deep with an "O" under the handle! What markings are on the Wagner? Wagner opened shop in July 1891 and manufactured a variety of designs through 1960. I have seen the "O" under the handle thing; but can not for the life of me remember on what! Check with "panman" www.panman.com
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Post by Bro. Freddie on Aug 20, 2006 4:00:50 GMT 12.75
Bet it was either on something made outta cast iron or something that I don't want to know about ;D
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Post by Paws on Aug 6, 2007 1:25:31 GMT 12.75
Bet it was either on something made outta cast iron or something that I don't want to know about ;D You know, it only took me a year to get that!
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Post by Toby Benoit on Sept 17, 2010 17:11:14 GMT 12.75
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Post by Paws on Sept 17, 2010 22:51:22 GMT 12.75
Oh yeah, "badda bump bump!"
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Post by Paws on Sept 17, 2010 22:55:48 GMT 12.75
Toby I loaned my book out but obviously the Wagner is genuine and could be as old as 1890. I'm thinking the other is probably a Wapak which is of the same era. That deep one is probably your Great Granny's chicken fryer. Now do you know which one is the skillet and which one is the fry pan?
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Post by Toby Benoit on Sept 18, 2010 16:21:14 GMT 12.75
That deep dish rascal is a fish frying mahine. I've no idea how old it is, but we do still fry fish in it from time to time. Granny says that's what it has always been used for, but I do know it's seen it's share of fried chicken as well.
The shallow one is the skillet, right?
Wapak??? Never heard of them.
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Post by Paws on Sept 19, 2010 3:31:34 GMT 12.75
Of couse you only had a fifty fifty chance!~ Think about it; I think that is right but still looking for proof. The two terms have been used interchangeably but I believe that once upon a time the deeper vessel was called a fry pan. Reason? Fried chicken. Fried chicken is always immersed in oil at least half the depth of the chicken or deep fried completely immersed. Never heard of skillet chicken. So I think the term skillet was reserved for the flatter or more shallow vessels and the term fry pan for the deeper ones.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Sept 19, 2010 5:50:35 GMT 12.75
Nevert hought much about it before, but I'm thinking you're right. I always heard of eggs, bacon, cornbread, etc in a skillet. Don't know why you'd ever fix them in a deep pan.
Yep, sho 'nuff fryers ought to be deep enough that ya don't splash the grease over the side and start a damn fire! ;D
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Post by Two Tales on Sept 20, 2010 15:09:42 GMT 12.75
Gentelmen (a term I use lightly on this site) yes and no...the way it was explained to me was; a skillet has a sharp inside corner and a frying pans inside corners are rounded..so if the deep one has the rounded and the other has sharp then ya'll is right, also normally one or the other came with a lid (not sure which though)...one more thing to look at was the combo fryers made by griswald, wagner, wapak etc...most of these were from the exact same orig pattern..being only slightly changed in the apperances of each such as rings, second handles, lip edges, and some of the lid handles...the term chicken or fish fryer actually wasn't part of any of the normenclature of the day from the foundries...
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Post by Toby Benoit on Sept 20, 2010 17:38:59 GMT 12.75
Seems to me the inside corners on both was about the same, but you got me going to go get 'em and check. I'll let ya know what I find. Normanclature??? You forget who you's talking with Ralph? Two dollar words like that'll make Paw's glasses fog up!
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Post by Paws on Sept 21, 2010 1:20:05 GMT 12.75
Gentelmen (a term I use lightly on this site) yes and no...the way it was explained to me was; a skillet has a sharp inside corner and a frying pans inside corners are rounded..so if the deep one has the rounded and the other has sharp then ya'll is right, also normally one or the other came with a lid (not sure which though)...one more thing to look at was the combo fryers made by griswald, wagner, wapak etc...most of these were from the exact same orig pattern..being only slightly changed in the apperances of each such as rings, second handles, lip edges, and some of the lid handles...the term chicken or fish fryer actually wasn't part of any of the normenclature of the day from the foundries... Ralphie, Ralphie, Ralphie; You know the man in the round house went nuts trying to find a corner to crap in! There ain't no corners in a circle you nut!
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Post by Toby Benoit on Sept 21, 2010 6:25:43 GMT 12.75
Insides of both pans look about the same angle on the insides. Reckon cause they're the same mfg maybe?
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Post by Paws on Sept 21, 2010 11:43:40 GMT 12.75
Could very well be. I seem to remember that Wagner did put a big "O" on the underside of the handle on some their wear but can not remember the details for certain.
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Post by Paws on Sept 22, 2010 2:40:54 GMT 12.75
I finally pulled my head out and put "define skillet" in Bing. I got back a whole bunch of definitions but dang near all of them indicate that a fry pan is a skillet and a skillet is a shallow vessel with a long handle, sometimes with legs (that would include Spyder (RT), spiders, and Potjies (Pokies) used for frying, or cooking food. Origins seem to be French (esculet). So frypans are skillets.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Sept 22, 2010 20:21:04 GMT 12.75
Yeah well, what do they know?
Esculet? So skillet is actually a coloquially perverted form of the French word for frying pan? Bwahaha, I'd a never figured that one out! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Paws on Sept 22, 2010 20:46:03 GMT 12.75
Exactly right! We dang near never ever did figure it out!
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