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Post by Carter Northcutt on Oct 23, 2008 5:06:40 GMT 12.75
Phil, I am talking about the oath the President and Congressmen and such take.
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Post by Snake Eyes on Oct 24, 2008 22:33:49 GMT 12.75
Hey anybody heard that Obama picked Biden because Jane Fonda was too far to the Right? Paws, I want to vomit every time I even hear or see that that bitch's name. There was a time,and rightfully so,that she would have been hanged for her actions. Is it to late? ?? I would not have a problem,smacking the horse,kicking the chair, or pulling the lever snake-eyes
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Post by Paws on Oct 26, 2008 20:16:47 GMT 12.75
A Pennsylvania lawsuit alleging that Barack Obama is not a “natural-born citizen” of the United States took an unusual twist this week, after a federally mandated deadline requiring Obama’s lawyers to produce a “vault” copy of his birth certificate expired with no response from Obama or his lawyers. The lawsuit, filed by former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg — a self-avowed supporter of Hillary Clinton — alleges that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and is thus “ineligible” to run for president of the United States. It demands that Obama’s lawyers produce a copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he is a natural-born U.S. citizen. Berg's suit and allegations have set off a wave of Internet buzz and rumors, though Obama could easily have put the matter to rest by providing the federal court with the basic documentation proving he is eligible to take the oath of a president. But Obama has apparently decided to deny the court and the public that documentation. The Constitution provides that any U.S. citizen is eligible to become president if the person is 35 years of age or older and is a natural-born citizen; that is, born in the territorial United States . By failing to respond to the Request for Admissions and Request for the Production of Documents within 30 days, Obama has “admitted” that he was born in Kenya , Berg stated this week in new court filings. Berg released a long list of “admissions” he submitted to Obama’s lawyers on Sept. 15, and asked that they produce documents relating to Obama’s place of birth and citizenship. Instead of responding, lawyers for Obama and the DNC asked the court to dismiss the case. But Judge R. Barclay Surrick of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania has issued no ruling in the case that would have given Obama’s lawyers more time. “There are lots of legal ways to stonewall,” a well-placed Republican attorney told Newsmax, who was not authorized to comment officially on the case. “But failing to respond is not one of them.” “The first thing they teach you in law school,” he added, “is don’t put a complaint like this in a drawer. That’s how a nuisance case can become a problem.” The 30-day deadline for defendants to comply with a discovery request is set forth in the Federal Rules of Civil Procedures. “It all comes down to the fact that there's nothing from the other side,” Berg said after he filed a motion on Thursday for summary judgment. “The admissions are there. By not filing the answers or objections, the defense has admitted everything. [Obama] admits he was born in Kenya . He admits he was adopted in Indonesia . He admits that the documentation posted online is a phony. And he admits that he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president of the United States .” In a contentious case, lawyers on both sides will haggle over the production of documents, and will frequently go beyond the deadlines, several lawyers told Newsmax. “The rules are more often complied with in the breech rather than the observance,” a senior trial attorney who has close ties to the Democrat Party, but is not involved in the current case, told Newsmax. “Lawyers frequently do not return telephone calls or meet discovery deadlines because of sheer inadvertence. Therefore, we do not consider a failure to respond as a ‘violation,’” he said. Allegations surrounding Obama’s place of birth have been swirling for months. Earlier this year, the Obama campaign sought to put down the rumors by making available a computer-generated Certification of Live Birth, issued in 2007 by the State of Hawaii . [See the Certification of Live Birth — Click Here.] Respected conservative blogger Ed Morrissey called the Berg lawsuit a “conspiracy theory” that had been put to rest by the Obama campaign over the summer but ”has arisen like a zombie yet again to suck the credibility out of the conservative blogosphere.” However, the 2007 document produced by the Obama campaign omits key information that normally appears on birth certificates in the United States , including the name of the hospital where he was born, the size and weight of the baby, and sometimes the name of the doctor who delivered him. In addition, the critics of the 2007 document note that Obama's father is described as “African,” a term used today. The formal language in official documents at the time — 1961 — would have identified his race as “Negro” or “Colored.” The Web site snarkybytes.com has produced a vault copy of a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth from 1963, issued by the Hawaii Department of Health. [See the vault copy — Click Here.] In addition to naming the hospital and more details about the baby, the 1963 vault copy also includes the “usual residence of the mother,” and the “usual occupation” of the father. None of this information appears on the 2007 Live Birth certificate produced by the Obama campaign. Berg has been a perennial political candidate in Pennsylvania , having run in Democrat primaries for attorney general, lieutenant governor, governor, and other offices without success. He served as deputy attorney general of the State of Pennsylvania from 1972-1980. His credibility was tarnished by work he did for the far-left “9/11 for the Truth” campaign, which alleged in a federal lawsuit that the collapse of the twin towers in New York was caused by “controlled demolition” ordered by the president of the United States . Nevertheless, in recent weeks, lawsuits have been filed in seven additional states demanding that Barack Obama produce an original vault copy of his birth certificate, to dispel the rumors that he is not a natural-born United States citizen. The latest suits have been filed in state and federal courts in Hawaii , Washington , California , Florida , Georgia , New York , and Connecticut to compel Obama to release his birth records. Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state superior courts to force the states’ secretary of state, as the chief state elections officer, to require Obama to produce original birth records from Hawaii , or else decertify him as a candidate for the presidency. Ironically, Obama mentions his birth certificate in passing on Page 26 of his 1995 memoir, “Dreams of My Father.” “I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school,” he wrote. Lawyers for Obama and the DNC did not return calls for comment on the current status of the case, or explain why the Obama campaign did not simply put to rest the whole controversy by releasing the birth certificate that Obama apparently cherished as a teenager. In the past, questions about Sen. John McCain's legal status have arisen. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone at a U.S. Army hospital. McCain had legal experts vet his constitutional qualifications, and he also disclosed a copy of his birth certificate. ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ Will we allow Jihad and terrorist supporters to buy and steal this election? Foreign contributions are illegal. Gadhafi says Obama will change America from evil to good! Do we want hate and the culture of death to rule over us ? Please read and share these links with everyone! Wake up America! The media is not covering any of the facts. We must. www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=78309www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.htmlatlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/those-gazan-con.htmlatlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/obamas-gazan-co.htmlwww.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_foreign_donors/2008/10/23/143619.html?s=al&pr omo_code=6E1A-1 atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/obama-who-is-je.htmlgroups.google.com/group/rec.music.classical.guitar/browse_thread/thread/1a1669dae52 1c692
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Post by Paws on Oct 27, 2008 0:29:01 GMT 12.75
This link is a must see! You will not believe your eyes at how simple the plot has thickened. Make sure to share this with your friends and every Democrat, young person, uninformed voter, Christian, and Union Member you know even if you have to hog tie them! oldbluewebdesigns.com/USSA.htm
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Post by Toby Benoit on Oct 27, 2008 8:18:45 GMT 12.75
Why this isn't spread far and wide over the airwaves is beyond me! If McCain loses, it'll be because he was scared of the political correct atmosphere in Washington and didn't air Obama's dirty laundry!
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Post by Jerry on Oct 27, 2008 9:51:51 GMT 12.75
What is going on with the citizenship issue with Obama. I was listening to talk radio today and a commentator was talking about Obama's problems. He said that some information is being broadcast but a great deal is not. He said that according to recent polls the American people don't care about Obama's citizenship or anything else. They think He will take care of this so-called financial crisis and other problems within the nation and that's all that matters. Colin Powell even said that if Obama is elected, America's reputation in the world will greatly improve. Folks, I don't about you, but all of this mess disturbs me. Have Americans become so gullible that they will believe anyone who seems to be a good public speaker? I guess so. I guess I hated to admit it, but what Phil has been saying is true. If America has gotten this low, then she gets what she deserves. God help us.
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Post by Paws on Oct 27, 2008 10:11:28 GMT 12.75
Ahdmadinajhad is sick in bed. I know one thing for sure if that sucker dies and gets back up it is time to get on your knees folk. I'll ive you odds then on who the "false prophet" is!
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Post by Snake Eyes on Oct 28, 2008 0:08:26 GMT 12.75
What is going on with the citizenship issue with Obama. God help us. lamirand, I sure don't know the whole story.but from what I understand Obama has refused to produce a birth certificate or college transcripts that would indicate his place of birth. I die hard democratic lawyer in Pa has filed a suit that is asking Oprah,I mean Obama,to produce both. Seems he has some type of evidence that shows Obama was born in Kenya,Africa which if true would disallow him to run for President of the United States. Don't look for this to be settled prior to Nov 4th. snake-eyes
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Post by Paws on Oct 28, 2008 0:46:02 GMT 12.75
What is going on with the citizenship issue with Obama. God help us. lamirand, I sure don't know the whole story.but from what I understand Obama has refused to produce a birth certificate or college transcripts that would indicate his place of birth. I die hard democratic lawyer in Pa has filed a suit that is asking Oprah,I mean Obama,to produce both. Seems he has some type of evidence that shows Obama was born in Kenya,Africa which if true would disallow him to run for President of the United States. Don't look for this to be settled prior to Nov 4th. snake-eyes It seems that this fella who filed the suit found that in one of Obama's writings, he had said something about "treasuring his birth certificate" which he now claims doesn't exist. He was under court order to produce this birth certificate and the deadline has passed. Contempt charges have already been filed.
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Post by Jerry on Oct 28, 2008 1:00:31 GMT 12.75
Thanks for the information. I have read all I can find on this and it looks like there is a major problem with Obama's birth. The thing that bothers me more than all is the apathy of the American public to this information. Many don't seem to care because they actually believe this radical will be good for the country.
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Post by Carter Northcutt on Oct 28, 2008 1:04:46 GMT 12.75
Sickening, just sickening.
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Post by Paws on Oct 28, 2008 1:05:07 GMT 12.75
So tell me Jerry, are you thinking what I am thinking? Is it Revelation time? Might this sucker qualify as False Prophet or am I off base? I believe in my heart that the False Prophet is a Muslim and Obama claims not to be one however; it is OK for Muslims to lie to protect the faith.
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Post by Carter Northcutt on Oct 28, 2008 1:10:36 GMT 12.75
He sure comes across as a false prophet
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Post by Jerry on Oct 28, 2008 4:58:53 GMT 12.75
I don't think Obama is the Anti-Christ or false prophet, but he sure is anti Christ. Is it Revelation time? I think so. Everything in prophecy has been fulfilled the was predicted to take place before the Lord returns. This so-called financial crisis is largely occurring in order to bring the world monetary system closer together. In order for a one-world government (partially brought to power by a one-world church) to come into existence, there must be a one-world monetary system. However, the good news is this: The Lord will not let His people go through the Great Tribulation. The next great event in human history will be the coming of the Lord and the rapture (taking out) of His people. It is certainly closer than it has ever been. But, all things are in place for this to occur. I will prepare something soon about bible prophecies and why I believe God's people will be removed prior to the Great Tribulation.
God bless all and keep looking up!
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Post by Jerry on Oct 28, 2008 6:34:16 GMT 12.75
JESUS IS COMING SOON Ref: Matthew 24:32-42.
INTRO: The Second Coming of Christ is a much-debated subject. However, I think we might be able to shed some light on this teaching. Basically, I believe it is a two-fold future event. At the rapture, before the Tribulation, The Lord will come FOR His Saints. (1 Thess 4:13-18, 1 Cor 15:51-57, Jn 14:1-3). After the Tribulation, the Lord will come WITH His Saints. (Mt 24:29-31, Jude 14, Rev 1:7, rev 19:11-21). Personally, I believe everything is in place right now for the first part of the Second Coming of the Lord. The current so-called financial crisis is a prime example. This is being allowed to take place to bring the world monetary system closer together. Without a one-world monetary system, there cannot be a one-world government. Now, we all understand as born out in our primary text that no man knows the exact time of our Lord's return or the exact time when the events of the last days will be brought about. Yet, we also understand that The Bible does give us some signs that would tell us the season or age of the end times and the events that will directly precede the return of Our Lord for His people and the ushering in of the Great Tribulation on this earth. Let's consider some of these signs.
1. INCREASE IN WARS AND RUMORS OF WARS. On the headquarters of the United Nations in New York, there is an inscription from the Bible, which is a portion of what's recorded in Micah Chap. 4, Vs. 3. Here's what that inscription says: ... and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. This, of course, is the hope of all men, yet will not and cannot be brought about BY men. This time of peace will, one day, be fulfilled but not by the efforts of the United Nations or any other man-made organization. But this time of peace will come when the Prince of Peace, the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, will come back and take possession of this earth. Folks, until that time this earth will undergo wars and rumors of wars. It has been pointed out by the society of International Law in London, England, that there have been only 268 years of peace during the last 4000 years of human history. And, this sad reality is true, in spite of the signing of more than 8000 separate so-called peace treaties, during that same time. In February of 1914, a conference on prophecy was held in Los Angeles, California, sponsored by Bible-believing peoples. When the conference was over, a liberal religious magazine described this conference as PATHETIC, because those in attendance held that the Bible taught that wars would continue and intensify until Christ would return to this earth. You know what: The sneers soon disappeared, because in August of that same year World War I began, and war has continued to be a plague to mankind since that day. This is a direct fulfillment of prophecy and cries out to us that we are, indeed, in the last days - and our Lord is coming soon.
2. INCREASE IN EXTREME MATERIALISM. Materialism has been defined as that science of knowing the price of everything, and the value of nothing. There has never been an age on earth, when materialism is as prevalent as it is today. In the book of Second Timothy Chapter 3, there’s a list of those things that would be prevalent in the last days. In Vs. 2, one is the signs is COVETOUSNESS. This is literally translated as SELF-CENTERED, LOVERS OF MONEY AND AROUSED BY AN INORDINATE (OR EXCESSIVELY GREEDY) DESIRE FOR WEALTH. Folks, this describes a malady that permeates every part of our society and is the cause of much of man's inhumanity to his fellow man. There are those around who would literally sell their soul, all because of an excessive desire for wealth. This seems to be the thrust of our Lord's message to His disciples in a portion of today's text, and also in Luke Chapter 17, where the Lord spoke of the days of Noah and Lot. In those passages, the Lord said that similar conditions, which prevailed in the days of Noah and Lot, would also prevail in the last days. What were the conditions in Noah and Lot's days? Well, Consider Noah. Noah lived in the time preceding the great flood and even preached for 120 years that the judgment of God would come. No one would believe Him and they all perished in the very flood that they believed would never come. Then, what about Lot? Lot lived in the wicked city of Sodom and in the region of Sodom and Gomorrah. These cities were so wicked that God decided to send fire from heaven and utterly destroy them. And, sadly, the people in these cities went on with business as usual until the fire of God fell and destroyed them all. So, the Lord's teaching, when He refers to these times, implies that almost everyone in those days went on as if their own efforts were all that mattered and as if that age would last forever. They ate, drank, married, bought, sold, planted, and built as if God did not exist and that what they built with their own efforts would fulfill all their heart’s desires. They could not see, nor believe that God's judgment was coming and went on with business as usual, until the judgment of God fell and destroyed them all. Now this extreme materialism, in other words, desiring more and more in the way of material things, is one of the greatest maladies of our day and cries out that we ARE, indeed, in the last days and that our Lord is coming soon. By the way, remember this: In both of these examples, God came and delivered his people, before His judgment and wrath fell. Noah pictures a devout Christian, Lot pictures a carnal Christian; both were delivered before God’s judgment and wrath fell. This is just another example as to why I believe that God will take His people out before the Great Tribulation.
3. THE SPIRIT OF LAWLESSNESS. This is recorded in the same text in Timothy that we referred to point number 2. Here’s a portion of that passage: (2 Tim 3:2) For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, (2 Tim 3:3) Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, (2 Tim 3:4) Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Now – notice some of the words included in this passage. Words such as BOASTERS – PROUD – BLASPHEMERS – and DISOBEDIENT TO PARENTS. All of these words indicate a spirit of lawlessness that would prevail in the last days. And, folks, all one needs to do to see this symptom is to look around us and see the blatant disregard for authority. This spirit of lawlessness and rebellion began in the Garden of Eden and has persisted to this day. And the Bible teaches us that it will grow worse as time progresses and will increase dramatically immediately preceding the return of our Lord to this earth. We’re not waiting for this time of lawlessness to come it is already here and is another sign that Jesus is, indeed, coming soon.
4. FAST PACE OF SOCIETY AND THE INCREASE IN HUMAN KNOWLEDGE. The ancient Prophet Daniel wrote about this condition many, many years ago. It's recorded in Daniel Chap. 12, Vs. 4, and here's what it says: (Dan 12:4) But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. You see, like no other time in human history, today we see a rampant increase in travel and in human knowledge. When Sir Isaac Newton read this prophecy many years ago, he is reported to have said: "Personally I cannot help but believe that these words refer to the end times. Men will travel from country to country in an unprecedented manner. There may be more inventions which will enable people to travel more quickly than they do now." This was written about 1680 A.D., and Newton went on to speculate that this speed might actually exceed 50 miles per hour. Some 80 years later, the famous French Atheist, Voltaire, read Newton's words and replied: "See what a fool Christianity makes of an otherwise brilliant man! Here, a scientist like Newton actually writes that men may travel at the rate of 30 or 40 miles per hour. Has he forgotten that if man would travel at this rate he would be suffocated and his heart would stand still." I wonder what Voltaire would have said if he had known that some two centuries after he wrote these words that an American Astronaut, by the name of Edward H. White, would climb out of a spacecraft a hundred miles high and casually walk across the continental United States in less than 15 minutes, strolling along at some 17,500 miles per hour? Not only that but what would he have thought about the trip to the moon, when man exceeded a speed, some 12 times faster than a .22 caliber rifle bullet can travel, when fired from a gun. Folks, the fast pace of our society has reached such proportions that most people no longer seemingly have time for God or time for one another. Human knowledge is increasing at such a fast pace that it is almost impossible to keep up with it. Just consider one of the fields of human knowledge, the field of computers. This field is increasing at such a rapid pace that when one buys a computer, it's almost obsolete by the time it's installed. Folks, again, these signs cry out to each of us that we are, indeed, in the last days, and the return of our Lord is very, very near.
5. MARKED DEPARTURE FROM THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. Now, this sign is no doubt, both the most evident and the most tragic of all. We are specifically warned of this in numerous passages. Let me just give a portion of 4 of these. 2nd Thess. Chap. 2, Vs. 3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, Then, First Timothy Chap 4. Vs. 1. Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Second Timothy Chap. 4, Vs. 3-4. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Second Peter Chap. 3, Vs. 3-4. Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. All of these passages describe the same thing, which is a falling away, not of the world but of those who profess to be Christians. In an editorial written some time back, a leading Chicago newspaper puzzled over the fact that some of the most vicious attacks on the Bible did not come from Communists or Atheists, but those attacks came from the very lips and pens of professing Christian theologians. With all of his hatred for God, even Adolph Hitler himself, never one time hinted that the Creator of the universe might be dead. Yet, some years ago, the "God is Dead" movement gained much ground in The United States of America. It did NOT from an atheist, but it came from a so-called religious professor. The National Council of Churches is perhaps the worst offender. While there may be some sincere men in that movement, the thrust and bulk of that movement is decidedly anti-Bible. In the past, this group has preferred Communism to theocracy, has encouraged immorality, has supported the violent overthrow of governments, has downplayed every cardinal doctrine of God's Word and has weakened the faith of literally millions of believers. No wonder Paul wrote in Second Timothy Chap. 3, and Vs. 5, that, in the last days, even many within the realm of Christianity, would HAVE A FORM OF GODLINESS, BUT WOULD DENY THE POWER THEREOF. Paul went on to say FROM SUCH TURN AWAY. Folks, probably more than any other prophecy in the Book, this departure from the faith is the most damaging to the cause of Christ because it doesn't come from those outside of churches but comes from those who claim to know Christ. Again, this prophecy, along with all the others cry out that we are, indeed, in the last days, and that Jesus is coming again soon.
CONCLUSION: What are we to do about these revealing prophecies? How should we react to the trues we have examined today? Folks the desired reaction is recorded for us. It's found in Second Peter Chap. 3, Vs. 10 thru 14, where it says: (2 Pet 3:10) But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. (2 Pet 3:11) Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, (2 Pet 3:12) Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? (2 Pet 3:13) Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. (2 Pet 3:14) Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. You see, when we see these things begin to come to pass, our reaction should be to become more diligent to be right with our Great God and right with His Son, The Lord Jesus Christ. If we would do that alone, then, when He comes, He would not only be glad to see US, but we would also be glad to see Him. Folks, we get one time through life and whatever we do here will determine what we will have there. God help us to be diligent to maintain our relationship with Him and with His precious Son, The Lord Jesus Christ. Folks, He is coming soon – where will His coming find you?
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Post by Paws on Oct 28, 2008 14:25:08 GMT 12.75
Well Jerry I think I have confirmation that Ahmahdinajhad is not the Anti Christ. Seems that my friend John in prayer over his shenanigans five years ago was given a word of knowledge indicating that Ahmahdinajhad was going to die. Hardly seems that such a word would go forth if he were going to be resurrected!
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Post by Toby Benoit on Oct 28, 2008 15:58:57 GMT 12.75
Ahmadinnerjacket, ain't the Anti-Christ, but he, Obama, and the rest of their ilk, sure are confirming my belief that the Lord will return any day, maybe in my life time. You bet I'm watching and reminding the kids to be on alert for Him to come at any time. There's so much evil loose in this world, I just can't imagine Him staying away much longer!
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Post by Snake Eyes on Oct 29, 2008 1:23:24 GMT 12.75
I don't really consider this thing about Obama to be a religious issue per sea. But I do think he should show proof of US citizenship,which he is unwilling to do. Sen. McCain had to do it and was born in Panama,on an US base,at a base hospital to an American father and mother.If Sen. McCain had to provide such evidence,why not Obama? ?My own thoughts are if DNA test were run,his Kenya father maybe in question. Ever wonder why he was so willing to let the Sarah Palin daughter issue pass with little comment? ? I won't say anything about that,if you don't look into my heritage. There are dogs and horses that require more documentation than a candidate for president !!!!!! Now that is (sorry)bullshit, at the highest order of bullshit!!!!!! Just my held back opinion of the situation. snake-eyes
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Post by Jerry on Oct 29, 2008 1:49:42 GMT 12.75
Snake Eyes. You are right when you say that Obama is not really a religious issue per se and I ask that you all forgive my lengthy post about the Second Coming. However, I do want to say that everything that happens is related to the overall plan of Almighty God. Therefore, everything is a spiritual issue. The Lord is not just involved in church, but He is involved in life. So, some of the things that we see going on, are prophetic. There are so many Bible prophecies that it boggles the mind. Yet, as with the Bible prophecies about First Coming of Christ, these prophecies are being fulfilled to the letter. In fact, at least 45 major prophecies about The Lord were fulfilled at His First Coming, not counting all of the minor ones. I think what Phil was alluding to, is that in Bible phrophecy there is ample Scripture about the Anti-Christ and false prophet that it does strike interest in the heart of a Christian. If an individual is born in the right place (which I don't believe Obama was), then that would be one qualification for that person to be the Anti-Christ or false prophet. Just musing here. Again, forgive my lengthy interjection on this post.
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Post by Mars on Oct 29, 2008 2:10:09 GMT 12.75
It's easy to figure obama and his ilk are not the anti-christ because, simply, people don't all like him. The anti-christ will fool everybody but the few remaining true believers and when the time comes "few" will be all that's left of believers.Obama will definetly muddy the waters against believers though making him a Herald to the anti-christ.
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