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Post by brittonfaith on Sept 25, 2011 14:10:44 GMT 12.75
Just had to share a funny hog story that's happening at my FIL's "lady friend's" house. The neighbor lady called yesterday, bitching and wanting to know if the wild board that are tearing up her rose bushes belonged to her, and if they were to come get them immediately or she was calling the sheriff. Now get this - this neighbor lady's husband is president of the local Buck Club! Becky said they weren't her's and jokingly added that if she could locate the "owner" to let her know right away! Becky's got llamas, guinneas, peafowl, horses, mules, sheep, goats, cattle, dogs, cats, geese, turkeys and chickens. But no swine of any kind. Today the neighbor calls back, even more irate. "Becky's hogs" have uprooted a small red maple. Either Becky comes and gets her hogs or she'll see her in court!! Becky asked her to listen to herself...WILD hogs. Just what does the word 'wild' mean? ? The woman got real quiet. She came back and said that she's calling Orkin to see if they can take care of the pest problem. Guess Orkin is coming out tomorrow to see if they can maybe trap them. GOOD LUCK!!!!! I told Becky to send Gene out and shoot the damned things. Then, invite this neighbor to the hog roast. Maybe a mouthfull of good hog will shut her up for awhile! Last word I heard is that Becky decided to let the entire area know how stupid her neighbor is by inviting the local TV news to come tape the entire (probably unsucessful, but hilarious) trapping event.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Sept 25, 2011 19:42:23 GMT 12.75
How dumb do you have to be to blame your neighbor for trouble with WILDlife???
Yeah, they oughtta set up a blind and wait 'em out. Drop a couple for the freezer and solve the problem.
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Post by Snake Eyes on Sept 25, 2011 19:57:55 GMT 12.75
Faith, That is a funny story in one way! But,in another not so much. Wild hogs are becoming a serious problem in Ohio and probably all states connected to Ohio and the country as a whole.They are becoming bigger,more aggresive and dangerous with each generation.A ferrel hog becomes sexually active at 5 months of age.She averages 6 piglets a litter and can reproduce 3 times every 14 months.Unchecked they can over run a state in very little time. What other wild animal can you hunt in Ohio with no limit and harvest 24/7/365 and all you need is a regular hunting license.When they call in Orkin I hope they pay by what they trap, and not the time spent trying to trap one. Sorry,but wild(ferrel) hogs are not cockroaches.In the south like Ga there is a case of a wild hog attacking a man in his living room.This is not urban legend BS it is true stuff. I know you have the means to check it out.I deer hunt Vinton and Logan counties and have killed a small one 90# not dressed out. My son on the other hand got a boar hog that dressed out at 230#.You don't really know how many are killed because you do not have to even report a kill,just a valid license if you are checked by ODNR with one.
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Post by Paws on Sept 25, 2011 23:14:33 GMT 12.75
This woman is too dumb to sit down to pee!
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Post by Paws on Sept 25, 2011 23:56:56 GMT 12.75
Faith, That is a funny story in one way! But,in another not so much. Wild hogs are becoming a serious problem in Ohio and probably all states connected to Ohio and the country as a whole.They are becoming bigger,more aggresive and dangerous with each generation.A ferrel hog becomes sexually active at 5 months of age.She averages 6 piglets a litter and can reproduce 3 times every 14 months.Unchecked they can over run a state in very little time. What other wild animal can you hunt in Ohio with no limit and harvest 24/7/365 and all you need is a regular hunting license.When they call in Orkin I hope they pay by what they trap, and not the time spent trying to trap one. Sorry,but wild(ferrel) hogs are not cockroaches.In the south like Ga there is a case of a wild hog attacking a man in his living room.This is not urban legend BS it is true stuff. I know you have the means to check it out.I deer hunt Vinton and Logan counties and have killed a small one 90# not dressed out. My son on the other hand got a boar hog that dressed out at 230#.You don't really know how many are killed because you do not have to even report a kill,just a valid license if you are checked by ODNR with one. What were you and your son using for weapons when you got those pigs Snake?
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Post by Toby Benoit on Sept 26, 2011 13:42:26 GMT 12.75
Down here in Dixie they get big and they get nasty. If you stumble into a big boar that's got a sow in heat nearby or a big sow feeling defensive over a litter of pigs..you get your hands filled real fast.
All of us that's hunted them regularly has a scar or two to prove it.
But, they ARE a fun hunt and can be as challenging as any whitetail depending on how you hunt them.
I've killed enough with sharpened sticks outta my bow to testify that if you hit 'em right, they die easy enough. I've killed my share with a .22long behind the ear too. But I like poking big holes in them with my ol' .357mag too!
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Post by Paws on Sept 27, 2011 3:47:06 GMT 12.75
I'm thinking 357 as well. Here we can not use a rifle. Can use a 357 for deer so I guess it would be best for that during gun season. I figure a hog might come at/to you so a good knife/spear might be a good tool to have at hand. Anybody want to hunt Ohio hog on purpose? Toby, we gonna need a Mentor!
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Post by Two Tales on Sept 27, 2011 4:32:02 GMT 12.75
Phil,
I have my younger brother doing some research right now on possible locations for a hunt (that is if I can afford to make the trip) we are over in Logan County and the numbers are blooming over there...20 gauge with rifled barrel...works dandy out to 50-75 yards no problem..also have the .357 for a secondary carry piece...and that's good for just about the same distance if I were to go that route...just waiting on word from George...
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Post by Paws on Sept 27, 2011 5:42:07 GMT 12.75
Phil, I have my younger brother doing some research right now on possible locations for a hunt (that is if I can afford to make the trip) we are over in Logan County and the numbers are blooming over there...20 gauge with rifled barrel...works dandy out to 50-75 yards no problem..also have the .357 for a secondary carry piece...and that's good for just about the same distance if I were to go that route...just waiting on word from George... I'll get hold of DNR and see what they say. Logan County is probably too far for me. My limit is about 8 hours total absence. I will not hunt hog with dogs so you might need to know that.
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Post by Paws on Sept 27, 2011 6:21:29 GMT 12.75
Doesn't look too promising. Looks like ODNR has exaggerated the problem. They don't even address wild hog in the regulations. As a varmint it is said that hogs may be hunted with any weapon like ground hogs.
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Post by Paws on Sept 27, 2011 11:47:48 GMT 12.75
TT it looks like you are in striking distance given an allowance of four hours to hunt but the routing takes me past the wife's residence. Not sure it is a good idea to go that way hauling weapons.
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Post by brittonfaith on Sept 27, 2011 14:32:06 GMT 12.75
No, Phil. ODNR is either denying or staying hush about the problem and expect landowners to take care it!! They're waiting until overall herd populations get high enough on a state-wide level to warrant a season. Belmont County has had a hog problem for almost 15 years. Used to sit on the porch at Barnesville and could hear them down behind the barn and over in the neighbors apple orchard. Boarding School had ODNR out as part of the school's long-term stewardship efforts and they were surprised at how many there were and the amount of damage they had caused. Worse than rats!! They did a flyover and on just this one day came up with a population of around 70 in a 5 sq mi area. We were told to shoot on site. Unfortunately, being on the campus portion of school property, we couldn't hunt them. The herd has since grown and is down into Monroe County. Brother says they are causing one hell of a mess in the back hayfields. Even worse than the groundhogs did before we invested in a couple good dogs.
Right after we moved here, a neighbor got a 370# sow just behind his house. That's actually how I met the guy. Somebody told me to go over and look at it. Surely a sow that big has had a couple litters of pigs. Several others say they've seen hogs. But nobody has produced anything other than a picture of damage.
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Post by Two Tales on Sept 27, 2011 15:32:49 GMT 12.75
Aug 2009 heading north on US 68 between B'Town and West Liberty had a herd of probably 60 run across the road in front of me a couple of them were mostly Russian the rest were a mix of different strains..any were from tiny li'l piglets to some realy big boars and every thing in between...when I say in front of me I mean slam on the brakes, see the bugs and clumps of dirt on thier snoots close....I think there are a bunch more of them than the ODNR wants to admit...
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Post by brittonfaith on Sept 27, 2011 16:33:31 GMT 12.75
You gotta go to the ODNR website for info on hog huntin'. Grabbed this there www.dnr.state.oh.us/Home/hunting__trapping/HuntingandTrappingSubhomePage/WildBoarHuntingInformation/tabid/18847/Default.aspx..... Wild Boar in OhioThe Division of Wildlife only documents the counties and townships where feral swine have been observed but more specific locations are not recorded. Publicly-owned areas (e.g. wildlife areas or state forests) offer limited opportunity for hunting free-ranging wild boars. Hunters interested in pursuing wild boars should start by talking to local folks (agricultural supply stores, check stations, local diners, and area farmers) and then do some scouting in the county you plan to hunt. Wild boars have been reported in southeastern Ohio counties of Athens, Belmont, Gallia, Guernsey, Lawrence, Monroe, Morgan, Noble, Ross, Scioto, Vinton, and Washington; southwestern Ohio counties of Adams, Brown, Butler, Darke, Preble, and Shelby; central Ohio counties of Auglaize, Champaign, Fayette, Logan, Mercer, and Pickaway; and northwestern counties of Defiance and Williams. The Division of Wildlife does not maintain a list of landowners with reported wild boars on their property. Always obtain permission from the landowner before hunting on private property. Ohio’s hunters are encouraged to harvest any feral swine they encounter in the wild in order to limit the spread of this destructive wild animal species in the state. Wild boars feed most heavily at dawn and dusk, spending their days resting in dense vegetation or wallowing in mud holes. These nuisance animals may be legally harvested year-round by hunters with a valid Ohio hunting license or by landowners on their own property. During the deer gun and the statewide muzzleloader seasons, a valid Ohio deer permit is also required and hunters should use only the firearm legal for the season. In other words, it's open season!!!! Known in Ohio as “wild boars,” they also are also called free-ranging European wild boar, Russian wild boar, wild pigs, wild hogs, or razorbacks. These “eating machines” damage agricultural crops, degrade wildlife habitat and consume ground-nesting bird eggs, reptiles, amphibians, or just about anything else they come across, say state wildlife biologists. They also carry diseases that can infect domestic livestock, wildlife, and even people. At present, the two most significant diseases wild boars carry are Pseudorabies and swine brucellosis. With no natural predators and because feral swine can reproduce year-round (1-7 piglets/litter), populations can quickly become established and rapidly expand from the release or escape of just one pregnant female. In Ohio, wild boars brought into the State for hunting have escaped from confinement and unwanted animals may have been intentionally released into the wild. The rangy-looking, non-native members of the domestic swine family are increasing their distribution in Ohio. Wild boar meat is reportedly excellent to eat. As with any game, proper field dressing and thorough cooking are always recommended. Experts recommend cooking all types of meat to 155-165 degrees Fahrenheit to kill disease organisms and parasites. Feral pig sightings can also be reported by e-mail (wildinfo@dnr.state.oh.us). This is a 2008 map from ODNR showing wild hog distribution. That sideways 'L' shaped area in southern Ohio covers me and Aunt Eloise. The "paw print" in eastern Ohio should cover all four of those counties. (That's my ol' stompin grounds.) You see those two counties in the eastern part of that group? Becky lives along the county line and about at the half-way mark of their borders. Brother is about 5 miles south of there. So the herd is growing and on the move!
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Post by Toby Benoit on Sept 27, 2011 17:33:37 GMT 12.75
Buy a hunting license and go get 'em... Seriously good eating!!! That lil map you got up with the red speckles on it. That same map of Florida would be solid red! The estimate as many, if not more, wild hogs in florida as there are whitetail deer.
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Post by Two Tales on Sept 27, 2011 18:46:17 GMT 12.75
Toby one of us is color blind..either that your 'puter is fugged up cause the map has green high lights
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Post by Paws on Sept 27, 2011 20:47:59 GMT 12.75
Oh, now I get it. The map is showing where suspected pot crops are being grown. That's why everybody is saying DNR lies. Keep out of my grow operation! Fug dat! Pigs don't shoot back but these crazy dope head hillbilies will.
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Post by Snake Eyes on Sept 28, 2011 1:19:43 GMT 12.75
Phil, To answer an earlier question what we got our pigs with. I got my little one from the ground that I would guess at 20/25yards with a .45 cal traditional M/L.My son got his hog from a tree stand at maybe 10yards with a new S&W .50cal. If I did not say,we were deer hunting at the time. Toby is right about eating them. They are much leaner than your domestic pork.Any wonder,hell they have to work for their meals. I saw a story on either the history channel or A&E where they hunt them from choppers and leave them lay where they are, when killed.I am sure this occurred in Texas.Seems a terrible waste of food to me.But,they are not in my back yard either.It was pointed out that with each new generation they are becoming more bold and aggressive.The reason being because of inbreeding.Their only enemy is man,at least in Ohio.If they were not a serious problem the ODNR would not treat them the same as any other vermin...IMO
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Post by Paws on Sept 28, 2011 1:50:04 GMT 12.75
Thanks Snake. Yes sir you would think that our wonderful "gubmit" would coordinate something to erradicate them while feeding some of the folk.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Sept 29, 2011 14:45:33 GMT 12.75
TT, yup, I is very much color blind, hahaha! Because of the potential for them to be carrying disease, they are not welcome to be donated via "hunters feeding the hungry" only venison...is that stupid or what? Millions of pounds (no exageration) is trapped and destroyed in state and federal parksthroughout the South and the hogs are either driven to the incinerator or buried via backhoe and a little slacked lime tossed over 'em. That pork could go to support one helluva lot of folks in need, but not if the gubment has anything to say about it. And lots of private landowners shoot 'em and leave 'em lay rather than run the risk of letting someone on the property that culd sue 'em if they got injured or sick from eating it under cooked...one more example of lawyers and liberal courts fuggin it up for the rest of us.
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