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Post by Bro. Freddie on Sept 29, 2005 11:47:47 GMT 12.75
Could someone please explain the Michigan huning laws to me especially the hunter ed requirements? I read it but am still confused.
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Post by othmar on Oct 3, 2005 10:48:59 GMT 12.75
Could someone please explain the Michigan huning laws to me especially the hunter ed requirements? I read it but am still confused. Here this might help you out. HUNTER SAFETY EDUCATION * You must take hunter safety if you were born after January 1, 1960. (If you are born after the date shown you need to make a hunter safety course before you can buy a license to hunt. Othmar) * A hunter safety certificate or previous hunting license is required to purchase any Michigan Hunting License. (This means if you go to a license vendor you need to show proof that your are entitled to purchase a license by either showing the vendor a license from the previous year or the hunter safety certificate. Othmar) * Hunters anticipating an out-of-state hunting trip need to obtain a certificate prior to their trip, most states require hunters to carry their certificate when hunting and need it to purchase a license. (If you are not a resident of Michigan you need to optain, or being in possession of hunter safety certificate from your home state. States with hunter education laws do this because not every state has this obligation, so if your state does not require a hunter safety certificate you have to make the course which your home state offers but not requires. In Michigan and some other states you are required to carry the certificate with you at all times when hunting together with your hunting license. The same is true if you are a resident of Michigan but go on a hunting trip to another state like Indiana or Illinois, you need to take the hunter safety certificate with you to that state and show it to the licence vendor or outfitter before you can buy a licence. Othmar) The Hunter safety course is NOT the equivalent of specific gun safety course and does NOT meet the requirements for Concealed Weapons permits. For this you have to get in touch with the Michigan State Police, or the State Police of your home state. Hunting becomes more and more political and we need ever more "certificates" and "permits." Wont be long and we need to hire special lawyers just to sort trough the wall of laws and regulations. Of cource you also need to carry your firearm owner licence with you every where you go with your firearm, make sure it is still valued.
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Post by Bro. Freddie on Oct 3, 2005 10:58:59 GMT 12.75
othmar, thanks a lot. Arkansas requires you to have a hunter's ed card if you were born after 1968 so I have never had to take the course. But now that I am considering going out of state guess I'll have to take the time and take the course. Again thanks a lot.
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Post by othmar on Oct 3, 2005 12:27:38 GMT 12.75
othmar, thanks a lot. Arkansas requires you to have a hunter's ed card if you were born after 1968 so I have never had to take the course. But now that I am considering going out of state guess I'll have to take the time and take the course. Again thanks a lot. If you intend to travel a lot for hunting then it is adviseable to take the test. On the other hand you can pick the states that do not require an education certificate born before 1968, although that does limit your choices. Some states require a certificate even if you are a 90 years old hunter and have been hunting long before todays poiticans have been around who make such silly laws. In America you folks are still better of than we here in Canada. I wont get into it what we have to go trough just to buy a firearm, let alone to take it hunting with us. The new firearm registration has so far cost the taxpayers 6 million dollars, they said less than one million when they set it up first. However the whole registry is such a mess that even the police freely admits that it is the most useless pice of legislation ever to come up. There are voices which advice to scrap the whole thing, but no, not politicans that would mean admitting failure, they want to put another 2 million into it to make it work and while they are at it they want to build a new building for it too. But in the meantime every gun owner who does not register, although the gun is registered already four times, will be a criminal. Nice! Good luck and be save on your hunting trips, let me know how you do.
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Post by Mars on Oct 4, 2005 1:02:13 GMT 12.75
Wildhog, I have hunted Michigan for the last 5 years. Don't let their laws throw you. Once you get used to them they are easy.
You don't need to carry the hunter ed certificate with you after you purchase the $1. sportsmans card. You must however present PROOF of PASSING a hunter ed course when you purchase the card. The card is a one time cost unless you lose it or it gets worn out somehow. I just told them the state that I took the course in and my number on the certificate ( if I had one, I lost mine) which is my SS number and they looked it up on their computer and I got my card. Took about 3 minutes. Each year that you want to hunt you just show the card and then buy the license. You can even do it over the internet.
Forget about hunting with a handgun. Residents only.
All firearms MUST be unloaded and CASED while in your vehicle.
The hunter orange law is vague at best and I've recieved several different answers from several different CO's. So to be on the safe side wear a orange cap and a vest of 500 square inches or more.
Watch where you hunt! Different sections of the state, particaly between the UP and "lower" Michigan, have different rules.
If you need better answers then here's a contact to call
Hall's Bait and Tackle, Union, Michigan, 269-641-2304
The woman that runs it will be more then happy to assist you or answer your questions as best she can.
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Post by Bro. Freddie on Oct 4, 2005 5:31:53 GMT 12.75
Mars. Thanks a lot. I have been invited to hunt in the upper pennisula of Michigan and am considering going. But this will have to wait till next year. Arkansas doesn't require hunters ed if born before '68 and I was born in '62. So I guess I'll have to take the thing.
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Post by Mars on Oct 4, 2005 10:24:02 GMT 12.75
Check if your local fish and game is having a class on the computer. They normaly post them on their websites. It doesn't have to be from your home state if you can find one that you can travel too. The course is easy and most times is only a couple of evenings long. Usualy about two saturday evenings. You'll like the UP. Kinda different having reg's that tell you how to identify a wolf from a coyote.
And yep, I was born in "64 so I needed the course as well. I took it during my AG class in high school.
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Post by othmar on Oct 4, 2005 11:14:02 GMT 12.75
Mars is right, you can make the hunter education course in every state. Also, some hunting Orgs. offer these courses. I made a test too because I hunt a lot in different states and provinces, I think in the long run every state will require these tests, it's an additional money maker for them. Today things got a lot easier with the internet. I remember that I use to send of for hunting regs. per mail. I still have stacks of old hunting regs from different states. Now I visit the state game dept. website. Here Mars is right too, study the regs carefully and every year because they keep changing plus there are often additional local regulation which are not covered in the state regulations. I found it is always best to phone the local wildlife officer where you want to hunt. I found them always a very nice bunch of people, often they gave me tips on where to start looking for deer and many other things which helped me to kill a whitetail.
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Post by Bro. Freddie on Oct 4, 2005 11:37:16 GMT 12.75
I have found that I could order a CD-Rom from the Arkansas Game and Fish and then take the test so I don't have to spend a whole day or 2 nights in class. I was kinda hoping I could wait though and have my son (7 yr old now) take it with me. Back when I went to school, a long long long time ago ;D, they didn't offer hunters ed in school.
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Post by Kirbyhill on Oct 5, 2005 1:18:50 GMT 12.75
Freddie, where are you going to be hunting in the UP? I hunted in Iron County and had a hunting camp near Buck Lake near Alpha. Can give you tips, maps, etc. if you are in that area........Bill
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Post by Bro. Freddie on Oct 5, 2005 6:09:42 GMT 12.75
Bill. Not sure yet. A friend of mine has a friend who owns and rents out hunting cabins somewhere in the UP. We have been offered to go up there and hunt rent-free and use his stands. He even offered to let us use his guns, but I want to carry my own. When I find out more like exact location I will let you know. Thanks for the offer.
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Post by Mars on Oct 16, 2005 0:34:30 GMT 12.75
I'd atleast consider the offer of using their guns. Traveling with firearms isn't what it used to be and you'd be traveling through several states that all have different rules concerning transporting firearms plus the many local laws. An example, Michigan law states your firearms must be cased while in a vehicle but another state may consider that a concealed weapon. If you choose to take your own I'd suggest that you break the firearm down (disassemble) then put it in a lockable case then put it in the trunk. This serves several functions, the firearm is out of sight, covers most laws on transporting and nearly all police cannot search a locked area of a vehicle without your permission or a search warrant unless they have "cause". Do not put the ammo in with the firearm!
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Post by othmar on Oct 16, 2005 1:17:21 GMT 12.75
I'd atleast consider the offer of using their guns. Traveling with firearms isn't what it used to be and you'd be traveling through several states that all have different rules concerning transporting firearms plus the many local laws. An example, Michigan law states your firearms must be cased while in a vehicle but another state may consider that a concealed weapon. If you choose to take your own I'd suggest that you break the firearm down (disassemble) then put it in a lockable case then put it in the trunk. This serves several functions, the firearm is out of sight, covers most laws on transporting and nearly all police cannot search a locked area of a vehicle without your permission or a search warrant unless they have "cause". Do not put the ammo in with the firearm! Mars made a very valued point here. I have a gun vault permantently instaled under the floor in the back of my suburban truck and a smaller vault under the front seat where I store the amunition. It relly gets more difficoult every year to transport firearms. Some states and Canadian provices have now laws which hold you liable if your car is stolen with the guns in it or the car broken in and the guns stolen from it.
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