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Post by Carter Northcutt on Feb 13, 2006 14:45:36 GMT 12.75
I don't care who it is, but I find this type of "accident" is inexcusable. Apparently he shot his rich lawyer buddy with a 28ga at a distance of about 30 yards while quail hunting.
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Post by Two Tales on Feb 13, 2006 23:47:41 GMT 12.75
I read the rest of the story as per Ms Armstrong...the Laywer friend had lagged behind and then walked into the field of fire...with out letting the rest of the party know he was back....VP shot within his normal zone of fire when this happened...still no excuse, but at least now I understand how it happened...
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Post by Paws on Feb 14, 2006 5:19:04 GMT 12.75
I don't care who it is, but I find this type of "accident" is inexcusable. Apparently he shot his rich lawyer buddy with a 28ga at a distance of about 30 yards while quail hunting. Oh, well yeah; if it was an accident I agree! (After all the man is a lawyer! ;D
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Post by Toby Benoit on Feb 14, 2006 7:20:31 GMT 12.75
A Dick shoots and a lawyer gets some on him. I think I saw that in a video once...
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Post by Brikatw on Feb 15, 2006 9:00:53 GMT 12.75
OK, he messed up. Stuff happens. But now what is this about not having the right tag? He sends in the $7 and all is ok??? I don't think so Tim!!! Had it been one of us poor folk who was caught with out the right tag, quail meat would have been around $4000 a lb. I wonder how badly that lawyer wants to get to court???
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Post by Toby Benoit on Feb 15, 2006 17:05:38 GMT 12.75
I'll go along with that!!!! Not permitted properly? Charge him the four hundred dollar fine like they would the rest of us po' folk! It ain't like he can't afford it!
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Post by RogueWarrior1957 on Feb 16, 2006 15:05:30 GMT 12.75
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Post by othmar on Feb 16, 2006 18:11:42 GMT 12.75
Dick (Richard Cranium) Cheney is a jerk. How can you not see a hunter only 30 yards ahead of you wearing blaze orange.
He should be treated like any other hunter, have his gun and licence revoked, been investigated and then appear in court and be done for it and sued out of existence like any other hunter who accidentally shoots somebody. But I guess being the VP of America makes it ok to be a moron in the field.
Worst of all it took his office a full day to open the yap about it and Dick himself has not said a word yet.
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Post by Rich on Feb 17, 2006 4:58:11 GMT 12.75
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Post by Paws on Feb 17, 2006 5:04:57 GMT 12.75
Yeehaw Rich! ;D You hear all the BS, backtracking, vague "opinions" and there must be at least a hundred versions of what happened. And they got the nerve to ask the man why he didn't go public right off. I swear I am just about an eyebrows width of putting a bounty on liberal scalps, all members of the media, and stupid people in general.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Feb 17, 2006 7:26:18 GMT 12.75
Here, here!!
You think the Major will let you use the cannon? I bet that would break up the press corps. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by brittonfaith on Feb 17, 2006 9:39:44 GMT 12.75
Man's Elbow, Mistaken for Squirrel, Shot Hunter's Elbow Shot After Partner Mistakes the Elbow for a Squirrel, Authorities SayGOLDEN TOWNSHIP, Michigan Feb 13, 2006 (AP)— A man was shot and injured when his hunting partner mistook his elbow for a squirrel, authorities said. Michigan State Police said George Arthur Sikkenga, 64, of Muskegon, Michigan was wounded Sunday morning in Golden Township, in Michigan's west-central Lower Peninsula. Sikkenga was wearing camouflage clothing except for an orange hat, which he had covered with a hood after sitting down behind a tree, The Muskegon Chronicle reported. His clothed elbow was all of him that was visible when his friend, Gregory Scott Wood approached from behind the tree and fired his weapon, which the Ludington Daily News described as a .17-caliber rifle. Sikkenga was transported to a local hospital, where he was treated and released. Police were investigating the shooting. It looks unlikely that Dick Cheney was involved. The elbow is expected to survive. There is also no word on whether or not the Washington press corps have been briefed on this latest shooting. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Uh, HELLO! Remind me again - Where do the phrases "know your target" and "be aware of your surroundings" come into play?? This guy must have really hairy elbows to mistake it for a squirrel. Even in camo, I just can't picture an elbow looking anything like a bushy tail. And sure, the guy that was shot had his blaze hat covered with his hood. What's the point of wearing it if you're going to cover it? It sounds, though, like this wouldn't have mattered from the view the shooter had. Bad judgment on both parts. This just proves that we all have to be careful and use good judgment while hunting.
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Post by Paws on Feb 18, 2006 7:54:38 GMT 12.75
Here, here!! You think the Major will let you use the cannon? I bet that would break up the press corps. ;D ;D ;D Major likes to load the mortars with broken glass marbles. Think that will do??
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Post by othmar on Feb 18, 2006 15:37:26 GMT 12.75
At least this one gets investigated and will have to face charges, unlike Dick Cheney, he will pay for his one second stupidity. I heard in the news that Dick not only shot the guy but then also left the scene and let his aids take care of the victim. He was asked why he did not attend and why he did not report to the police. His comment was, "There where enough people around to help..." and "I have not seen anything but the ranch owner (the one who reported the accident and spoke to the police) has seen everything from a distance so it only makes sense that she talks to the police and not I who have seen nothing." Is that stupid man so blind that he has not seen anything that goes on around him? Then he never should go hunting in the first place. Now if you and I do this we go straight to jail for leaving an accident scene and fail to report an accident. Interesting how the law is applied differently for different people. It is said that some hunters suffer from "buck fever" when they see a game animal. Buck fever is a silly term used for people who switch their brains off when they see the object of their desire.Someone explained to me it has to do with getting wobbly knees, sweating, dizziness and hallucinations brought on by extreme excitement. Have no idea frankly sine I never have suffered such a thing, a big monster buck leaves me as cold as a small doe. After all that is what I expect to see and shoot so why would I get exited if the quarry does show up. I guess it's an excuse for fickle mindedness. Some years back when I still lived in Illinois a friend called me up to help him look for the "huge" buck he shot with his bow. We followed the blood trail, which was rather massive for a deer, then it dried up. We searched in a grid pattern and finally I saw the buck laying in the field. A true monster with white and black fur weighing about 700lbs and the only points I could make out where four between its hind legs. The moron "mistaken" a bloody Holstein for a whitetail deer buck. I do not know what others would have done, but I know what I did. Yep you got that right muzzle control and hunter safety in general can't be stressed enough. If I go hunting with others I make sure they all know that I value my live and what I expect from them to stay alive. If they think as much as making one comment on me being over cautious I will turn around a go home. Never hunted with jerks, never will.
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Post by brittonfaith on Feb 18, 2006 17:06:25 GMT 12.75
The moron "mistaken" a bloody Holstein for a whitetail deer buck. And I thought it was bad for us Jersey breeders during deer season! Didn't think that the "black & white" fellows had too much to worry about. Guess I was wrong again. hmm...There's a cow missing in the last lineup..... Where's 267-Rosie??........ In Othmar's tummy?? ;D I bet she was tasty.
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Post by othmar on Feb 18, 2006 19:30:12 GMT 12.75
hmm...There's a cow missing in the last lineup..... Where's 267-Rosie??........ In Othmar's tummy?? ;D I bet she was tasty. [/quote] Accutually no, I did not eat the cow. It was I who went to the farmer to tell him the news. The guy who shot it was not able to walk and had for about a week problems eating solid food. I have a problem, I can't stand jekrs, they bring the worst out in me espeically if they get me out of bed in the middle of the night to help looking for a "real beauty of a buck" that then turns out to be a Holstein. But that was years ago and today even I see a tiny little humour in it. Specially when I see his face after I wraped his bow around it.
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Post by brittonfaith on Feb 19, 2006 3:48:29 GMT 12.75
;D The more I think about it the more I'm ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
At least you had good sense. I've seen and heard of too many cows (and other livestock) shot during deer season and nobody came forward. Then after realizing their mistake, the cowards would just let her lay out in the meadow to rot. That makes me furious!! I can't stand to waste anything. For myself, I would have been grateful for you coming forward to tell me and maybe would have offered half of beef to you. Of course this would depend on which particular cow is downed. If she was one of my better brood cows from older, privately bred, blood lines, I might not be so understanding or glad to share. I might even charge the shooter for her value to the herd.
How did your farmer react? I can picture in my head everything from enraged to totally understanding.
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Post by Paws on Feb 19, 2006 4:45:42 GMT 12.75
As bad as it is and even when it costs human life "An accident is an accident." That's why they aren't called On purposes." Each and every one of us falls short of perfection at one time or another and I sure hope I remember not to judge my friends, fellows, and acquaintances during their time of error and I pray they aren't around to see and judge mine. We all need to remember that as long as we are flesh and bone, we will never be perfect. I'm sure Mr. Chaney feels perfectly terrible having for just a moment lost focus and injurying his friend, regardless of what the facts of the situation are. I'd bet he relives the event every hour trying to disclose the causal events to prevent recurrance. I wouldn't be shocked if he gives up hunting. When we error, we really need to refocus, forgive ourselves, ,learn from it so as not to repeat it, and move on. The rest of us who are there just in witness; we'll get our turn in the barrel! Now the poor guy who shot the cow it is obvious that he didn't even have a clue what a deer looked like. This is not an act of stupidity, but one of ignorance which is easily corrected. I remember when my wife shot her first deer. The owner of the beast was more than accomodating asking only that she return his saddle.
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Post by brittonfaith on Feb 19, 2006 5:04:34 GMT 12.75
Thanks, Paws. Your point is well taken. Oh, Geesh! I'm becoming my mother! I guess I've become quite a cynic in recent years. I really don't mean to be. I guess sometimes, in trying to see and understand all sides of something at once, I get confused and what I'd like to say comes out all wrong. Maybe that's why I don't talk too much in person. I've learned to control my mouth. Just haven't learned to control my opinions and keyboarding. Anyways.....Forgive me?
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Post by Paws on Feb 19, 2006 5:20:06 GMT 12.75
Forgive you??? For what?? Please don't take my oratory personally. Lots of times I need to write things out to develop or evaluate my own thoughts and most of the time that is what my rambling amounts to. Besides, where would I get off judging anyone else?
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