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Post by brittonfaith on Nov 29, 2006 14:25:42 GMT 12.75
Well, I finally purchased the (lotsa) yard goods for a simple day dress. But before I start cutting, I need a little advice. I've been told that dresses of the mid 19th century had a lining.
What types of fabrics/colors were suitable for the lining? Should I line the entire dress or just the skirt? Are they absolutely necessary? Does a lining even matter??
The dress will be lightweight summer cotton with a (kind of) light olive & ecru small plaid.
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Post by Lt Colonel Bruce Reynolds on Nov 30, 2006 0:51:46 GMT 12.75
From what I can ascertain, you would need a lightweight lining, preferrable of muslin. It would be best to line the complete dress. This was done as at the time, there were not the undergarmets that we are blessed with today. They wore several petticoats and pantilets (these were crotchless) and bras were not even heard of. They wore corsets and so they needed their material to breathe for them.
Peg (Major Bruce's wife)
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Post by shiloh on Nov 30, 2006 5:53:12 GMT 12.75
A plain light weight cotton muslin is what you would probably want. Like the Maj. said, they didn't have the undergarments of today. They wanted the lining partly to help give the skirt more body, partly to help hide the lines of the hoop, and partly to help prevent "see-through" in event of strong light behind the legs. Can't have THAT now can we!? ;D
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Post by brittonfaith on Nov 30, 2006 9:08:53 GMT 12.75
Thanks for the tips and info! Now I have another question. What do most of the female reenactors wear under those pretty dresses?? Are they striving for "fashion correctness". Excuse my being brash, but are they corseted, or are they just wearing "granny panties" and "knocker lockers"? ;D There's a bad spot in my spine (old injury) that cannot stand to be pressed on and I just simply can't picture these sagging bosoms without a good supporting slingshot.
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Post by Lt Colonel Bruce Reynolds on Nov 30, 2006 10:36:30 GMT 12.75
Hello Buck N' Beans, Being a Major I can be Brash, Lady Peg wears the usual under neath, as she has a ,ah ,well she is well endowed, HA HA ! ;D You can wear what ever you want to wear under your pretty dresses,its really what you feel comfy with. The Major
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Post by Paws on Nov 30, 2006 10:44:26 GMT 12.75
Major doesn't wear anything under his dresses Faith! He adopted that policy when a certain Confederate Captain questioned the authenticity of the troops undergarments by insisting they be of a particular thread count! Once shed, the troops gladly provided him with the opportunity for an up close and personal inspection! By the way, why would you ask the Major "What MOST of the ladies wear under their dresses?"
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Post by peg on Nov 30, 2006 13:27:28 GMT 12.75
Phil,
I just have one statement to make to that comment. Since this has been such a closely guarded secret among the men, you must have been involved during the "inspection". How else would you know the particulars?
As to the modern ladies undergarments, go with what is most comfortable for you. Yes, I do wear a modern bra. I also wear other modern undergarments. I do have a pair of pantalets, however. They do help as I sometimes do get gaulded. If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask. Men (particularly Phil) aren't always as "smart" as they like to think they are. At least the major did state to be as comfortable as possible with your underthings.
Peg
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Post by Paws on Nov 30, 2006 13:38:29 GMT 12.75
I still want to know how the Major knows what most of the women wear under their dresses! (Frank told me about the underwear inspection.)
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Post by Lt Colonel Bruce Reynolds on Nov 30, 2006 15:10:52 GMT 12.75
:DThere are some perks to being a Major. Anymore that I could tell you would be a sentence of death for you. (Oh yeah, and Frank lied.)
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Post by Paws on Nov 30, 2006 15:28:57 GMT 12.75
Sounds like the makins' of a duel to me. Two Majors at 40 paces armed with 1851 Army 44s loaded with ball. Now tell me more about these "crotchless pantalets". Why are they called panta lets rather than panta prevents?
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Post by peg on Nov 30, 2006 15:34:26 GMT 12.75
:oDo you realize that certain information is not discussed among mixed company? And honey, you are as mixed as they come. It sounds to me like you have been on the field or in the woods long enough. Talk to your commander and tell him that you are in dire straights that you definitely need a leave so that you can take care of business.
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Post by Paws on Dec 1, 2006 2:37:57 GMT 12.75
jbreck.com/itsshardtokiss.html If you'll just click on this and let it load, takes a couple minutes, you'll understand. Be sure to wait until the band plays the song too! Rogie if you are listenting, we need a country and western song entitled: "Miss Rosebud's Pantilets"
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Post by brittonfaith on Dec 1, 2006 4:30:06 GMT 12.75
Peg, thank you most kindly for confiding that it's fine to be comfy in my modern dainties. As for you, Phil, ahem.......My, my, my....What can I say? Typical guy panting over pantalets. Shameful! Just shameful!! ;D
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Post by Lt Colonel Bruce Reynolds on Dec 1, 2006 4:39:06 GMT 12.75
;D Hey Phil, I see that you haven't learned that WOMEN, not MEN rule the world. As our dear friend Frank says, YES Dear, YOUR right Dear, I was WRONG Dear, What was I ever THINKING !!!!!!!! Now if you learn this, life will be a lot easier for you. The Major
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Post by Bro. Freddie on Dec 1, 2006 14:47:14 GMT 12.75
I'd always heard that the man was the head of the house and his wife the neck. She could turn that head any which way she wanted ;D
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Post by Paws on Dec 2, 2006 0:22:55 GMT 12.75
Pastor that's why the Major refers to Peg as Field Marshal! What I call my wife is somewhat more; errrr, traditional.
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Post by Lt Colonel Bruce Reynolds on Dec 2, 2006 2:01:06 GMT 12.75
Hey Phil, The Feildmarshal says if you are NICE to your wife she will be nice to you.
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Post by brittonfaith on Dec 2, 2006 4:47:40 GMT 12.75
Mike will be glad he's not alone. He calls me Mein Kommandant. Wrong country, wrong war. Same meaning!
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Post by Paws on Dec 3, 2006 6:42:43 GMT 12.75
Hey Phil, The Feildmarshal says if you are NICE to your wife she will be nice to you. You ever heard "Burned once shame on you; burned twice...." Well all I can say is shame on me! Tell Der Field Marshal she is incorrect! Ach du liber.
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