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Post by elkchsr on Aug 18, 2004 20:33:32 GMT 12.75
Here is my first post on Paws board Hope we all get along as well as I do with those at Hunttalk... Anti-Fishing Sign Gets the Hook HOUSTON (Reuters) - An anti-fishing billboard in the coastal city of Galveston featuring a dog with a hook piercing its lip will be taken down after complaints from local drivers. The billboard, part of a campaign by animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, went up last week along a highway leading to the island Texas city that draws thousands of anglers each year. Jeremy Murphy, spokesman for the billboard owner, Viacom Outdoors, said on Tuesday the billboard would be taken down within a week as part of the company's policy to conform with local community standards. The billboard, featuring a computer-edited picture of the dog and the caption "If you wouldn't do this to a dog, why do it to a fish?," is part of the animal rights group's "Fishing Hurts" campaign. "Fish feel pain and suffering, and it's been well documented," said spokesman William Rivas-Rivas. "Fish aren't swimming vegetables. We shouldn't torture them just for entertainment or palate preference," he added. The group said it plans to roll out the billboard in several other cities across the United States.
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Post by Paws on Aug 18, 2004 22:41:26 GMT 12.75
Oh man! I see this one working it's way all the way to the US Supreme court. What do you guys and gals think? Should Peta and others be silenced or have a voice in such issues and topics?
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Post by CountryGal on Aug 19, 2004 5:01:05 GMT 12.75
I think the PeTA people are brain dead. I have never heard a fish scream. I have heard them croak ;D and I would like to hear them croak some more. Let's go fishing.....
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Post by DaGriz on Aug 19, 2004 6:25:34 GMT 12.75
Recent medical/scientific study proved that fish do no feel pain! Just read the article in Outdoor Life the other day. Wish I had clipped out the article. Flucking PETA!
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Post by Paws on Aug 19, 2004 11:31:23 GMT 12.75
Fish have no feeling?? No wondermy wife sme...; uh sorry there,thinking out loud again.
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Post by othmar on Aug 18, 2005 18:12:59 GMT 12.75
PETA is behind all this, there are many different groups but their mother hen is PETA. Their political goal is very simple; NO ANIMALS for Humans, NOT as Pets, NOT as Food, NOT for medical tratment. Yes not even the seeing eye dog for the blind. In fact PETA believes and their leaders have quoted it many times. That humans are the scum of the earth. We all deserve to die on illneses like cancer and AIDS. PETA is a politically very dangerous group, highly politically charged with millions of dollars to "lobby" politicans and hire researchers. They even hire shrinks to tell them how to manipulate people and especially children in schools. PETA and CO belives that it is cruel to hook a grub or night-crawler on a hook because it feels pain and stress? ??. Nevermind the fact that you can hack a worm in two halves and then it will grow into two different worms.
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Post by RogueWarrior1957 on Aug 18, 2005 23:31:10 GMT 12.75
In my humble opinion, PETA and others like them are domestic terrorists and should be treated as such. They don't even practice what they preach...humans are animals too, but PETA treats other humans unethically. What about the pain and stress they cause other human beings with their lame ideas and terrorist activities? I have yet to see a total vegetarian who looked healthy. Human beings like members of the simian, ursine, and swine families are omnivores and were originally foragers and opportunists. This gave the omnivores an edge over carnivores and herbivores in the beginning as far as survival.
I was taught from my youth that we were put here as stewards of the earth with dominion over the beasts of the field. The beasts were put here to serve man, not vice-versa. I was also taught to respect the beasts and never mistreat (in the Scottish dialect of my forebearers) dumb brutes. This included being taught to dispatch quickly any farm animal or game animal intended for human consumption.
At work yesterday, we were discussing how hunts intended to control wildlife populations had been disrupted by PETA and Company. They would rather the animals die from starvation or disease than someone make proper use of them. They come up with lame ideas like putting the wildlife on contraceptives, surgical sterilization and such to control populations. Now how ethical is that? There is nothing so wrong or underhanded that I would be surprised at PETA doing to try to make their point. They are ruthless, maniacal, terrorists!
I guess it all goes back to the old adage: If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.
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Post by Carter Northcutt on Aug 19, 2005 14:19:28 GMT 12.75
ALF is their main terrorist group. And I agree, they are S-C-U-M
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Post by othmar on Aug 19, 2005 17:11:19 GMT 12.75
In my humble opinion, PETA and others like them are domestic terrorists and should be treated as such. They don't even practice what they preach...humans are animals too, but PETA treats other humans unethically. What about the pain and stress they cause other human beings with their lame ideas and terrorist activities? I have yet to see a total vegetarian who looked healthy. Human beings like members of the simian, ursine, and swine families are omnivores and were originally foragers and opportunists. This gave the omnivores an edge over carnivores and herbivores in the beginning as far as survival. I was taught from my youth that we were put here as stewards of the earth with dominion over the beasts of the field. The beasts were put here to serve man, not vice-versa. I was also taught to respect the beasts and never mistreat (in the Scottish dialect of my forebearers) dumb brutes. This included being taught to dispatch quickly any farm animal or game animal intended for human consumption. At work yesterday, we were discussing how hunts intended to control wildlife populations had been disrupted by PETA and Company. They would rather the animals die from starvation or disease than someone make proper use of them. They come up with lame ideas like putting the wildlife on contraceptives, surgical sterilization and such to control populations. Now how ethical is that? There is nothing so wrong or underhanded that I would be surprised at PETA doing to try to make their point. They are ruthless, maniacal, terrorists! I guess it all goes back to the old adage: If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. You are right on with PETA & CO. In Africa they wanted to catch or kill some elephants in order to take the strain away they caused on the land. PETA was against it and won. They said; "We rather would see the elephants die from starvation and and diseas then have them hunted or catched and relocated, which wouls but an unbearable amout of stress on them." I guess starvation and diseas don't cause stress then. Some years back in Indiana, PETA introduced a programm to sterilize deer instead of hunting them. They found a government agency which coverd the cost of it all at tax payers expence. The whole operation took two weeks to capture 100 white tail deer. We are told that the operation was a huge sucess by PETA. However if you look into it then it was not. It costed the tax payers per deer $3000.00 to catch them, knock tehm out, give them an hormone inplant and wake em up again. The Vets ( 4 of them) charged $ 35 per hour work. The Game wardens and some other helpers did not work for free either. The deer paid a toll too, of the 100 deer only 20 odd survived the ordeal, the others where found dead from stress of capturing them with nets and the following treatment. By other deer the implant caused infection and blood poisoning. There where also words of caution that the impalnts have caused cancer of the sex organs in domestic animals. But for PETA it was a success and they wanted it seen to be made into a law and out law hunting. Luckely some politicans still have their heads screwed on somewaht streight and the law never saw the light of the day. Ingrid Newkirk, founder and president of PETA stated several times that animals have more rights than people, she also has gone on record for saying several times that humans deserve to die from illnesses such as cancer and AIDS and that if animal research could save only one human life it would not be ethical to let an animal die for such a selfish reason. Ashcroft called the ALF "domestic terrorist, every bit as real and dangerous as Al-Quaida and home grown." Amzzing then that it takes governments around the world, other than China, so long to do something about this folks. Regards Othmar
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