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Post by Mars on Aug 27, 2010 12:52:30 GMT 12.75
As I predicted on another thread there are local ammo stores advertising they will buy the ammo people bought during the "obama scare". The bad part of my situation is that IF a serious survival incident did happen one of the things I may have to do is use a bullet on my wife. Sounds horrible but in a worse case scenerio it would have to be done.
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Post by Paws on Aug 27, 2010 14:29:49 GMT 12.75
Member, if you shoot her you got to eat her. Those are the kind of things that need to be thought through beforehand. In the heat of emergency you need to know what to do like following a checklist.
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Post by Paws on Jan 13, 2012 3:30:56 GMT 12.75
Seriously though Mars, I have gone over much of the same thought processes and for me the decision is to plant and defend until the last shot fired. I suspect you would do much the same rather than abandon your wife or girls. That means reinforcing the defense capability of your home and grounds. Of course a single rocket will finish either one of us. Develop your "what if" scenarios and if your thinking is the best way to protect your girls is to abandon the homestead with them then.... I have several plans depending on the situation.
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Post by Paws on Jan 13, 2012 3:37:42 GMT 12.75
My "Bug Out" gear now includes all camo clothing top to bottom with boonie hat, belaclava, four T shirts, outer shirt, poly/wool hoodie, four in one parka, trousers, insulated two piece underwear of black silk, four pair of black or brown socks of wool and thin poly inserts, two pair of gloves one with inserts and key vaults, and black combat boots.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 13, 2012 9:17:01 GMT 12.75
Something I'm going to take up with Lafe (Rainguage) real soon, is alternative medicines. In case of a bugout, we aren't going to have pharmacy access. Som it's best to stock up on your meds as much as possible andstart to familiarize yourself with hollistic alternatives, otherwise the best camo, firearms, ammo stockpiles, and food reserves will be all for naught... Lafe, being a bona fide medicine man, ought to have some good avise on such things. He's a pretty fart smeller...I mean smart feller, about the indian remedies and we ought to give him our ears! My bugout gear is pretty up to date and I'm ready to get off the grid out of the line of fire...
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 13, 2012 9:22:11 GMT 12.75
Also, consider your water... best to stock up on water purification tabs! I just ordered another thousand tablets myself and already have a few hundred in stock.
Yes sir, shlts gonna hit the fan sooner or later.
Also, it's time to consider alternative sources of currency. Seems the one thing not losing value is gold. Might be advisable to knock off a couple rap stars and stockpile ther teeth just in case....
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Post by Paws on Jan 13, 2012 11:16:53 GMT 12.75
Some thoughts. Drug stores have meds. Nuff said. Jewelry stores have gold, silver, platinum and stones. So do I. I doubt cash will be of much value but cleaning out your accounts has got to be part of the exit strategy. Some of the things you just mentioned like meds will be tradeable. I got myself a couple of turkey blinds that are highly adaptable. Got a 3D and a net. I can set up a reasonable base camp in the woods now that will be tough to detect except with infra red. A couple space blankets solves that problem. Along that line a set of BDUs might come in handy. Make sure they have never been ironed or exposed to high dryer heat as this will nulify their infrared protection. Remember to not use your electronics around camp for a while. Stay low on the radar and close to the ground and wait it out. I'm in the process of ammo inventory. I think I'm going to pick up a high power air rifle, sling shot, and start practicing with the sling again. Lot quieter for night hunting and such. Saves on ammo too. Might pick up a dozen or so more bolts for the cross bow.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 13, 2012 19:13:19 GMT 12.75
Pick up another dozen bolts and broadheads and a spare string for the crossbow...
Prescription meds aren't tradeable if there's no one around...a BIG drawback of getting off the grid/off the radar.
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Post by Paws on Jan 13, 2012 19:20:31 GMT 12.75
Some things are always trade goods: coffee, tobacco, tea, canned goods, knives, buttons, thread, pins. We'll see where this goes. Might just be all kinds of surprises in store.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 14, 2012 7:25:46 GMT 12.75
You brought up another overlooked item, "threads, buttons, pins" I'm going to include a sewing kit inmy campers stores.... Thanks!
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Post by Paws on Jan 14, 2012 16:49:34 GMT 12.75
My cold weather camo got a work out today. I donned it all to test it out while I worked on setting up the battery charger for the Dodge. Two hours outside piddlin, fiddlin, and diddlin in 9 degrees, 25-35 mphg winds and blowing snow with no problems. Thighs got a littly chilly. Chest, arms hands and feet remained warm and comfortable. Think I'm going to add silk glove liners to the roster and add a pair of heavy duty silk long johns. Expensive, but well worth the price if they keep you warm and dry. It's going back on tomorrow as I need to be out and about early. Weather is supposed to be nasty so if I break down or get hung up I wish to remain warm.
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 15, 2012 18:08:57 GMT 12.75
Glad you staying snug! Ya might find some of them silk unnerwears in the Sportsman's Guide.
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Post by Paws on Jan 16, 2012 0:37:01 GMT 12.75
I survived. Not quite as cold without the wind so I left out the hooded sweat and balaclava. Standing around outside the church though for thirty five minutes was enough to put a chill in my fingers and face. Walking around helped a bunch. Found the undies and glove liners at Cabelas for about the average price but the undies are heavy weight pure silk and black and about forty percent off making the total price and shipping under a hundred bucks. Hope they make it time for my birthday. Oh I forgot to tell you about my thinsulate, camo, waterproof boots! Needed 10 1/2s I figured with a heavy sock right. Wally World has the boot I want at a really good price but only in my shoe size. I milled around looking at them and finally talked myself into trying them out. Always bring them back if they don't fit right! So I get them home don woolies with liners and open the box. I pull out the right side boot and noticed the tag in the tongue, "10 1/2 wide". I'm so damned happy and I slip it on, perfect fit. So I go for the left boot and, "9 1/2 wide". What the hell, and on she goes. SON OF A BITCH!, it fits perfectly. Now I do not know if the boot is marked wrong, my left foot is smaller or what and really don't care cause I got a perfect pair of boots! ;D
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 16, 2012 7:52:39 GMT 12.75
;D ;D ;D Sometimes ya get lucky!!! Boots are a big prollem for me. My legs are mishaped and U can't wear uppers, so I'm really stuck wearing the qurter tops, like a low top work boot, but wear a size 13 5E width...a good insulated boot is hard to come by in them sizes. I need to go to a good shoe/boot store and try 'em on and see. I just bought a low quarter boot from King Sizewith 600grams of thinsulate, but they only make 'em up to 4E in width and damnedif they don't pinch. Add a thick sock to my feet and I doubt I'll even be able to walk in 'em...yep, they're going back... I got plenty cold weather gear otherwise, just gptta take care of these feet....being a diabetic, that's priority for me!
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Post by Paws on Jan 16, 2012 8:47:03 GMT 12.75
;D ;D ;D Sometimes ya get lucky!!! Boots are a big prollem for me. My legs are mishaped and U can't wear uppers, so I'm really stuck wearing the qurter tops, like a low top work boot, but wear a size 13 5E width...a good insulated boot is hard to come by in them sizes. I need to go to a good shoe/boot store and try 'em on and see. I just bought a low quarter boot from King Sizewith 600grams of thinsulate, but they only make 'em up to 4E in width and damnedif they don't pinch. Add a thick sock to my feet and I doubt I'll even be able to walk in 'em...yep, they're going back... I got plenty cold weather gear otherwise, just gptta take care of these feet....being a diabetic, that's priority for me! Minister here locally wears 18 EEEE. Got himself a pair of Nikes from someplace!
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Post by Paws on Jan 16, 2012 8:53:18 GMT 12.75
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Post by Toby Benoit on Jan 17, 2012 17:36:38 GMT 12.75
;D Thanks man!!!
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Post by Paws on Jan 18, 2012 5:54:00 GMT 12.75
Welcome dude. Got my silks this morning. Man I look so sharp in those black long Johns and white gloves I think I might just add a tie, top hat and silver knobed cane to the ensemb'!~ They are so comfortable. Now I need some really frigid weather to give them a thorough check out. I checked those boots and the left measures a half inch shorter than the right; same width. Hey, I'm happy but somewhere there might be a fella whose right toe pinches!
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Post by brittonfaith on Jan 18, 2012 10:17:01 GMT 12.75
Hope you're more satisfied with yours than the fellas out on the river are with their's. Company bought each guy a set this year and they've had a couple nights to try them out. So far, they hate them. They're comfy and to some extent help wick moisture, but do absolutely nothing at retaining body heat. Mike said he's going back to his insulated Carhartt jeans and standard issue long johns.
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Post by Paws on Jan 18, 2012 11:12:33 GMT 12.75
You got to get the "heavy weights" minimum. They also have Arctic and Under Armor grades. If they are wicking moisture then the boys are sweating. If they are sweating then they are getting plenty warm. Oh Faith ask Mike if they fit loosly or tight like the regular LJs. They are supposed to fit loose. That might be the problem.
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